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Post by methatswho on Mar 30, 2023 13:32:59 GMT -6
Nor to be disrespectful like FDA
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Post by beatonz on Mar 30, 2023 13:35:03 GMT -6
Yes it is steaming from FDA beatonz which is why I simply put the best player available for the hornets and not Anferneee for Penny It’s just not your role in this league to be making these picks. Unless John delegated it to you. Did he? |
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Post by methatswho on Mar 30, 2023 13:44:12 GMT -6
Ok well Anferneee Hardaway is the clear cut 2nd best player and picked him second so in case Cheddar does comeback are we can get a New GM for the Hornets since we have the Bulls and Suns with GMs here and I assume yes Penny maybe mad but in the long run can understand that it's best for the league
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Post by methatswho on Mar 30, 2023 13:49:44 GMT -6
Going forward with no clear cut best player available I will stick to the Warriors and Wizards unless there's a lull and I would prefer not to pick
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Post by beatonz on Mar 30, 2023 13:51:39 GMT -6
Going forward with no clear cut best player available I will stick to the Warriors and Wizards unless there's a lull and I would prefer not to pick Maybe we can ask John to delegate the drafting rights to some members of the board to help the draft moving. We have done it in the past where Kong has helped out. |
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Post by Kong on Mar 30, 2023 13:58:55 GMT -6
Ok well Anferneee Hardaway is the clear cut 2nd best player and picked him second so in case Cheddar does comeback are we can get a New GM for the Hornets since we have the Bulls and Suns with GMs here and I assume yes Penny maybe mad but in the long run can understand that it's best for the league
John sends a mass email before draft begins so maybe Cheddar returns, maybe he doesn't but John should make the call for autos at this point even if Hardaway seems like the sure pick. And what beatonz said in general.
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Post by methatswho on Mar 30, 2023 13:59:18 GMT -6
Going forward with no clear cut best player available I will stick to the Warriors and Wizards unless there's a lull and I would prefer not to pick Maybe we can ask John to delegate the drafting rights to some members of the board to help the draft moving. We have done it in the past where Kong has helped out. Ask for it I will be down with that if it's Kong ME If you would like are maybe if some GMs would that aren't Mods are anything to help increase the participation in the league is a great thing to have all the GMs here currently feel involved is a better league then what I presume FDA would like . Since it increases every team odds as well as those sans GM that way they can get stewardship |
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Post by Penny on Mar 30, 2023 15:40:50 GMT -6
Chris Webber: B C C+ B B A Bump up the Potential to the High A He deserves. And tone down the ratings a little. But Webber had a smooth mid range shot (jumpshot should go up from D to C). And he was one of the best passing bigs. He and Vlade Divac in Sacramento were Jokic before Jokic. Penny Hardaway: B C B B C A Penny's game was beautiful. Great all around game. Not the greatest shooter though. Jamal Mashburn: B (low B) C+ C B- C A Monster Mash was a great scorer. Had some injuries like Penny. But he was averaging 24 PPG by year 2. And finished his career as a 20 PPG scorer in Charlotte. Allan Houston: C+ B C B- C- A One of the prettiest jumpshots ever. He's the best shooter in this class. Nick Van Exel: C+ B- B- B- C- A Lindsey Hunter: C B- C+ B+ C- B He was a hell of a defensive player. But at 8ppg on 38 Fg% 36 3pt% and 2 apg for his career, the outside shooting and handle grade should be toned down. Ill add to this a little later. Must not have watched penny before the knees buckled... he was know for his ability to shoot the mid range and the 3 especially posting up smaller guards 12 -15 ft out the turn around Jumper over them. |
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Post by methatswho on Mar 30, 2023 15:45:47 GMT -6
Chris Webber: B C C+ B B A Bump up the Potential to the High A He deserves. And tone down the ratings a little. But Webber had a smooth mid range shot (jumpshot should go up from D to C). And he was one of the best passing bigs. He and Vlade Divac in Sacramento were Jokic before Jokic. Penny Hardaway: B C B B C A Penny's game was beautiful. Great all around game. Not the greatest shooter though. Jamal Mashburn: B (low B) C+ C B- C A Monster Mash was a great scorer. Had some injuries like Penny. But he was averaging 24 PPG by year 2. And finished his career as a 20 PPG scorer in Charlotte. Allan Houston: C+ B C B- C- A One of the prettiest jumpshots ever. He's the best shooter in this class. Nick Van Exel: C+ B- B- B- C- A Lindsey Hunter: C B- C+ B+ C- B He was a hell of a defensive player. But at 8ppg on 38 Fg% 36 3pt% and 2 apg for his career, the outside shooting and handle grade should be toned down. Ill add to this a little later. Must not have watched penny before the knees buckled... he was know for his ability to shoot the mid range and the 3 especially posting up smaller guards 12 -15 ft out the turn around Jumper over them. I had him like that he wasn't that much a 3pt shooter and he's entering the league you may split hairs with him having a C+ outside but he wasn't as knock down a shooter as you suggested earlier in his career and relyed on going to the rim and Shooting as you said what would be bunny's nowadays so a C is warranted and if anything B+ inside with Webber |
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Post by methatswho on Mar 30, 2023 15:46:22 GMT -6
Houston also should have B+ outside
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Post by methatswho on Mar 30, 2023 15:47:33 GMT -6
And leave the defense alone because they actually appreciated and accepted defense back in the 90s
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Post by methatswho on Mar 30, 2023 15:47:54 GMT -6
So just rank players accordingly
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Post by methatswho on Mar 30, 2023 15:48:16 GMT -6
Like the ABA players
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Post by methatswho on Mar 31, 2023 23:17:28 GMT -6
Coleman - as a SF Post Defense 65 Perimeter Defense 70 Drive Defense 5 Stealing 50 Blocking 60
Lloyd - Should be adjusted to SG Do to ABA vs NBA Post Defense 50 Perimeter Defense 50 Drive Defense 50 Drive Defense 60 Stealing 55 Blocking 55
Chris Jent - Complete Number Ratings according to play as a Rockets played in 94 against the Knicks
Andrew Gaze - Complete Number Ratings according to played in the Olympics
Chris Jent
Inside 65
Jumpshot 70
3pt shot 60
Handle 30
Passing 5
Quickness 75
Post Defense 60
Perimeter Defense 40
Drive Defense 50
Stealing 45
Blocking 53
Offense Rebounding 80
Defense Rebounding 55
Jumping 50
Strength 65
Potential 45
Andrew Gaze
Inside 70
Jumpshot 35
3pt shot 15
Handle 65
Passing 33
Quickness 69
Post Defense 25
Perimeter Defense 35
Drive Defense 65
Stealing 60
Blocking 35
Offense Rebounding 35
Defense Rebounding 45
Jumping 80
Strength 50
Potential 45
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Post by methatswho on Mar 31, 2023 23:36:37 GMT -6
Kukoc - 94 potential
Baker - inside 75 Strength 80 Post Defense 75 Blocking 68 Offensive Rebounding 70 Defensive Rebounding 63
Rodgers - Inside 70 Offense Rebounding 75 Defensive Rebounding 70 Strength 80
Burrel - Jumpshot to 75
Cheney - Jumpshot to 70
Lynch - as SF Post Defense 70 Perimeter Defense 70 Drive D 50 Stealing 50 Blocking 25 Strength 85 Offense Rebounding 70
Radja - Inside 75 Strength 85 Defensive Rebounding 80
Coleman - as a SF Post Defense 65 Perimeter Defense 60 Drive Defense 5 Stealing 50 Blocking 60
Harris - Inside 65 Jumpshot 70 3pt 60
Walters - Inside 65 Strength 65 Offensive Rebounding 50
Lloyd - Should be adjusted to SG Do to ABA vs NBA Post Defense 50 Perimeter Defense 50 Drive Defense 65 Drive Defense 55 Stealing 55 Blocking 65:
Outlaw - Post Defense 75 Perimeter Defense 35 Drive Defense 67 Stealing 65 Blocking 57 Strength 80
Cheney - Jumpshot 70 3pt 70
Curry - Post Defense 50 Perimeter Defense 70 Drive Defense 70 stealing 60 blocking 15
Hurley - Strength 60 Inside 60 Jumpshot 70 3pt 65 Offensive Rebounding 50
Chris Jent - Complete Number Ratings according to play
Andrew Gaze - Complete Number Ratings according to play
Chris Jent
Inside 55
Jumpshot 70
3pt shot 60
Handle 30
Passing 5
Quickness 75
Post Defense 60
Perimeter Defense 40
Drive Defense 50
Stealing 45
Blocking 53
Offense Rebounding 80
Defense Rebounding 55
Jumping 50
Strength 65
Potential 45
Andrew Gaze
Inside 70
Jumpshot 35
3pt shot 15
Handle 65
Passing 33
Quickness 69
Post Defense 25
Perimeter Defense 35
Drive Defense 65
Stealing 60
Blocking 35
Offense Rebounding 35
Defense Rebounding 45
Jumping 80
Strength 50
Potential 45
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Post by New York Knicks on Apr 1, 2023 23:55:41 GMT -6
There's been some weird picks so far
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Post by methatswho on Apr 2, 2023 20:08:47 GMT -6
No Cavaliers GM are you going to pick for them John1974 |
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Post by Kong on Apr 3, 2023 9:06:04 GMT -6
If possible lets wait for John to auto now that clock is running. Even if a clock expires. Autoes are bad for GMs interest so at least personally I don't mind the extra wait.
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Post by beatonz on Apr 3, 2023 17:21:21 GMT -6
Hopefully wizards gm gets back to make his pick in time after all the feedback he provided into this draft class…
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