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Post by Keyser Soze on Mar 20, 2024 11:16:46 GMT -6
Well if that's simple, then why you do have to take the petty "oh you just wanna change Dleague so nobody else can exploit it" angle? That's wasn't very professor-like of you. It kinda made you look like a bitch actually. Sometimes the truth hurts. Your motivations are very thinly veiled to those paying attention. Also, the moral authority with another example of name calling is very unbecoming. It's a real shame that this is the way you keep choosing to welcome a newer, active member of the league. You didn't like lollipop guild. Figured you might like something a little more modern. And a little more suiting for you. Because anybody that waits right up until the time that John starts simming, and then tries to intentionally create confusion and get somebodies camp cancelled. Is a straight up bitch I know. The truth hurts. Bitch
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Post by sapular on Mar 20, 2024 11:24:30 GMT -6
Sometimes the truth hurts. Your motivations are very thinly veiled to those paying attention. Also, the moral authority with another example of name calling is very unbecoming. It's a real shame that this is the way you keep choosing to welcome a newer, active member of the league. You didn't like lollipop guild. Figured you might like something a little more modern. And a little more suiting for you. Because anybody that waits right up until the time that John starts simming, and then tries to intentionally create confusion and get somebodies camp cancelled. Is a straight up bitch I know. The truth hurts. Bitch ahhhhh if we dont get our way and continue to exploit things and someone calls it out is a bitch...got it. I added that to my alternate notes on the league.
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Post by Pepe Silvia on Mar 20, 2024 11:26:45 GMT -6
Sometimes the truth hurts. Your motivations are very thinly veiled to those paying attention. Also, the moral authority with another example of name calling is very unbecoming. It's a real shame that this is the way you keep choosing to welcome a newer, active member of the league. You didn't like lollipop guild. Figured you might like something a little more modern. And a little more suiting for you. Because anybody that waits right up until the time that John starts simming, and then tries to intentionally create confusion and get somebodies camp cancelled. Is a straight up bitch I know. The truth hurts. Bitch John simmed at 10 p.m. on a Monday night? Or are you just content on presenting materially false information? The truth further eludes you.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Mar 20, 2024 11:31:29 GMT -6
No i got other reasons.
You see@druce here sent a #19 pick to the Dleague. And I get it, accidents happen.
But then he still claimed the award points for it, even though he knew the guy was illegally in the Dleague. That was intentional.
What happened to your ethics, professor?
That's why he's a bitch. And a fraud. And he can't hide it. No matter how many times he changes his username. I still see right through you Pepe.
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Post by Pepe Silvia on Mar 20, 2024 11:34:43 GMT -6
No i got other reasons. You see@druce here sent a #19 pick to the Dleague. And I get it, accidents happen. But then he still claimed the award points for it, even though he knew the guy was illegally in the Dleague. That was intentional. What happened to your ethics, professor? That's why he's a bitch. And a fraud. And he can't hide it. No matter how many times he changes his username. I still see right through you Pepe. Oh please, no, don't take the +2 stealing away from Malik Sealy! The corner stone of my franchise is ruined, RUINED!
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Post by Keyser Soze on Mar 20, 2024 11:35:30 GMT -6
You didn't like lollipop guild. Figured you might like something a little more modern. And a little more suiting for you. Because anybody that waits right up until the time that John starts simming, and then tries to intentionally create confusion and get somebodies camp cancelled. Is a straight up bitch I know. The truth hurts. Bitch John simmed at 10 p.m. on a Monday night? Or are you just content on presenting materially false information? The truth further eludes you. False information huh. Ok well let's double check. New York Knicks Player to be Used On: SG Adam Haluska (3rd year player, 2nd round pick in 2010) Cost: $1000 Camp: Diamond in the rough - $1000 +10 to any rating(s) of your choosing and +5 potential. Can only be used on players drafted in the 2nd round or undrafted players, can be the only camp a player has for this season, and can only be used once in a player's career. (Includes strength/quickness/jumping) +7 Three Point Shot (85)+3 Steals (59)+5 Potential (55)Total - $1000 Thanks I have claims to cover Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I tried to camp him when I signed him as an FA and couldn't because he wasn't on a rookie contract. Is that correct? Well what do you know. 11 minutes apart. You know what you did. You know why you did. Don't lie about it. Dont be a bitch. Don't prove me right.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Mar 20, 2024 11:36:31 GMT -6
No i got other reasons. You see@druce here sent a #19 pick to the Dleague. And I get it, accidents happen. But then he still claimed the award points for it, even though he knew the guy was illegally in the Dleague. That was intentional. What happened to your ethics, professor? That's why he's a bitch. And a fraud. And he can't hide it. No matter how many times he changes his username. I still see right through you Pepe. Oh please, no, don't take the +2 stealing away from Malik Sealy! The corner stone of my franchise is ruined, RUINED! That's even worse. You intentionally cheated for 2 measley points. So I ask again: what happened to your ethics, professor?
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Post by Pepe Silvia on Mar 20, 2024 11:39:28 GMT -6
John simmed at 10 p.m. on a Monday night? Or are you just content on presenting materially false information? The truth further eludes you. False information huh. Ok well let's double check. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I tried to camp him when I signed him as an FA and couldn't because he wasn't on a rookie contract. Is that correct? Well what do you know. 11 minutes apart. You know what you did. You know why you did. Don't lie about it. Dont be a bitch. Don't prove me right. To insinuate that I somehow knew John was processing upgrades at 10 pm on a Monday is banana land.
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Post by Pepe Silvia on Mar 20, 2024 11:40:33 GMT -6
Oh please, no, don't take the +2 stealing away from Malik Sealy! The corner stone of my franchise is ruined, RUINED! That's even worse. You intentionally cheated for 2 measley points. So I ask again: what happened to your ethics, professor? This is a nice spin zone. He was left in D League, I assumed it was fine. I don't put the points in.
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Post by Pepe Silvia on Mar 20, 2024 11:44:10 GMT -6
Meet FDA, 36 years old. Fed up with life and the way things are going, he decides to exploit a sim basketball league for some sort of internet clout, and then play the victim or cry "Witch!" when exposed.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Mar 20, 2024 11:45:59 GMT -6
He was left in the Dleague because John might have missed your initial post about it. But when John misses your point, you got no problem repeating it. As evident in this thread. But when it came to this, you kept it quiet And what would've happened if he gained +30 points instead of +3? Would you have grown a conscience then? Or would you have tried to slip it past the goalie too? So please answer me: what happened to your ethics, professor?
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Post by Keyser Soze on Mar 20, 2024 11:50:03 GMT -6
False information huh. Ok well let's double check. Well what do you know. 11 minutes apart. You know what you did. You know why you did. Don't lie about it. Dont be a bitch. Don't prove me right. To insinuate that I somehow knew John was processing upgrades at 10 pm on a Monday is banana land. If you would've just said the truth; "yeah I wanted fuck you over. So what?" I would actually have a little respect for you. But unfortunately, you're a bitch.
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Post by Pepe Silvia on Mar 20, 2024 11:52:54 GMT -6
He was left in the Dleague because John might have missed your initial post about it. But when John misses your point, you got no problem repeating it. As evident in this thread. But when it came to this, you kept it quiet And what would've happened if he gained +30 points instead of +3? Would you have grown a conscience then? Or would you have tried to slip it past the goalie too? So please answer me: what happened to your ethics, professor? I've slipped two past the goalie in my personal life, it's a bit of a talent. Malik Sealy would need +30 to be worthwhile, I wish that'd happened so you'd have something that actually mattered to complain about.
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Post by Pepe Silvia on Mar 20, 2024 11:54:17 GMT -6
To insinuate that I somehow knew John was processing upgrades at 10 pm on a Monday is banana land. If you would've just said the truth; "yeah I wanted fuck you over. So what?" I would actually have a little respect for you. But unfortunately, you're a bitch. Adam Haluska is irrelevant to your team and your success, but you know that, just searching for things to whine about at this point.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Mar 20, 2024 11:57:04 GMT -6
He was left in the Dleague because John might have missed your initial post about it. But when John misses your point, you got no problem repeating it. As evident in this thread. But when it came to this, you kept it quiet And what would've happened if he gained +30 points instead of +3? Would you have grown a conscience then? Or would you have tried to slip it past the goalie too? So please answer me: what happened to your ethics, professor? I've slipped two past the goalie in my personal life, it's a bit of a talent. Malik Sealy would need +30 to be worthwhile, I wish that'd happened so you'd have something that actually mattered to complain about. Well I believe it's the small things that reveal a person's true character. So if you know they're gonna cheat with something petty. What does that mean when they encounter something major? You see it's like a crystal ball.
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Post by Pepe Silvia on Mar 20, 2024 12:00:14 GMT -6
I've slipped two past the goalie in my personal life, it's a bit of a talent. Malik Sealy would need +30 to be worthwhile, I wish that'd happened so you'd have something that actually mattered to complain about. Well I believe it's the small things that reveal a person's true character. So if you know they're gonna cheat with something petty. What does that mean when they encounter something major? You see it's like a crystal ball. You speaking about character would be a wonderful choice of screen shot for the word "irony" in the dictionary.
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Post by Penny on Mar 20, 2024 19:19:41 GMT -6
The problem with the game, and especially the version I have is that a lot of the flaws were never fixed. Some were in updated versions but the game will always favor SF, SG, and PG positions over the others. That's a design flaw but it is what it is so we deal with that, like losing bird rights if you decline a resign offer. We made some of the flaws part of the game, and nerfed playing SF at starting SG/PG as thats another exploit in the game. Bigs in order to have just 1bpg have to be around 50 rating otherwise they wont hit 1.0 bpg and your also not going to see a big with high jumping. We also nerfed the D league a bit with created players and that is just starting to show as grandfathered in players are moved on from camping, etc. I dont want to change the D league much as I like were its at but like the created player nerf I might in the future not allow any player with 80 or above potential as that's A level potential and 1st round top tier talent even if they slide down the draft. other than that I like the D league and how its working. So test it, run a season sim with the shot blocking grades reduced by 20% and see what the leaders look like. You can't just blame everything on the game when it can be fixed with ratings. Jumping does very little to effect shot blocking numbers. This has all been tested over 100 sim seasons by my old league commissioner. I'm not entirely sure how you can like how the D League is working when the best young players are coming from there rather than the top of the draft (outside this most recent draft with 5 nba legends). I definitely liked how that leagues player files were and the commish did run many seasons to test the game and funny part is there was no age cap on camping player , which probably led to inflation.
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Post by PimTig on Mar 21, 2024 22:16:19 GMT -6
So test it, run a season sim with the shot blocking grades reduced by 20% and see what the leaders look like. You can't just blame everything on the game when it can be fixed with ratings. Jumping does very little to effect shot blocking numbers. This has all been tested over 100 sim seasons by my old league commissioner. I'm not entirely sure how you can like how the D League is working when the best young players are coming from there rather than the top of the draft (outside this most recent draft with 5 nba legends). I definitely liked how that leagues player files were and the commish did run many seasons to test the game and funny part is there was no age cap on camping player , which probably led to inflation. Inflation was driven by the fact that a player could receive: +30 direct upgrades +10 more upgrades if they were one of 10 randomly selected secret players in each class (“hidden gems”) +10 via skill camps +15 for second rounders through the “mentoring” system A second rounder could theoretically receive +65 in their career, and owners would obviously put those in the most powerful attributes (mostly scoring because the caps on shot blocking were significantly lower). That’s why there was inflation. It could’ve been easily avoided by reducing how much a player could be upgraded. Downplaying the value that reducing shot blocking would have by pointing to inflation, which was caused by something entirely different, is throwing out the baby with the bath water.
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Post by John1974 on Mar 22, 2024 4:38:19 GMT -6
So test it, run a season sim with the shot blocking grades reduced by 20% and see what the leaders look like. You can't just blame everything on the game when it can be fixed with ratings. Jumping does very little to effect shot blocking numbers. This has all been tested over 100 sim seasons by my old league commissioner. I'm not entirely sure how you can like how the D League is working when the best young players are coming from there rather than the top of the draft (outside this most recent draft with 5 nba legends). I definitely liked how that leagues player files were and the commish did run many seasons to test the game and funny part is there was no age cap on camping player , which probably led to inflation. I have 20 plus years of testing it. We've also done a great job with inflation for those who've been around to remember. Spending is capped, ratings are lower to start, tons of improvement over our first itp 20 plus years ago. Minor changes in the future with some things, but overall I'm pleased with how things are now.
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Post by majic44 on Mar 22, 2024 7:21:20 GMT -6
I definitely liked how that leagues player files were and the commish did run many seasons to test the game and funny part is there was no age cap on camping player , which probably led to inflation. I have 20 plus years of testing it. We've also done a great job with inflation for those who've been around to remember. Spending is capped, ratings are lower to start, tons of improvement over our first itp 20 plus years ago. Minor changes in the future with some things, but overall I'm pleased with how things are now. I hear what you are saying and completely understand you have ALOT of experience in the software. But I thought I might provide more context to the testing our old commissioner did when figuring out the best balance for the league. Let me preface this first by explaining our background as a league leading up to the testing. The core group of guys that made up our league had been together for roughly 15ish years, with varying iterations of the league. We had 6 total versions over that time frame with each season running close to 50 seasons. It wasn't until we got a new Commish for the 5th iteration, 8 or so years in, that he sat down and did all of his testing. Between the first 4 iterations we had some minor tweaks and adjustments, but the new Commish was the first one to sit down and take the time to test everything. Had he not done that, we would likely have been on a very similar trajectory as this league. With that background, let me lay out the true extent to the testing that he did. I doubt anyone has ever put as much time into testing (not sure anyone should have in the first place), or simming in general, as this guy did. We always joked that he was essentially a robot, devoid of emotion. Here is the parameters with which he tested from, in case anyone didn't read the Mechanics article I posted previously: Testing
He checked each position from two perspectives. BAD -Create a player with fifty less than his position's maximum in every attribute and record eighty seasons. -Increase one attribute to the maximum and record eighty seasons. -Return that attribute to fifty less than max, increase the next attribute to the maximum and record eighty seasons. -Repeat for every attribute. GOOD -Create a player with the maximum in every attribute and record eighty seasons. -Reduce one attribute by fifty and record eighty seasons. -Return that attribute to the max, reduce the next attribute by fifty and record eighty seasons. -Repeat for every attribute. He specifically recorded player [games, minutes, field goals, field goal attempts, free throws, free throw attempts, three pointers, three point attempts, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, turnovers, fouls, points] and team [wins, points allowed, turnovers allowed, field goals allowed, field goal attempts allowed, free throw attempts allowed, points, turnovers, field goals, field goal attempts, free throw attempts]. This allowed him to calculate usage by team and player as well as Pythagorean wins in addition to actual wins. This testing totaled out to 240 seasons per attribute per position. Meaning, he did well over 18,000 seasons worth of testing and collected ALL of that data just to understand how the attributes affected the game. In addition, he did separate testing to see how height and weight affected each position, following a similar plan as the attributes. He then went into testing on Depth Charts, and finding how each setup can affect the game and stats. Finally he did the exact same testing to figure out the logic behind contracts, resignings, hometowns and Free Agency. Once again, following the same simming model as the attributes. When I say that he was thorough in his testing, this is what I mean. He came close to 100,000 seasons of data simmed and tracked to figure this all out. There is far more useful information that most of us knew what to do with, but it helped shape some of the changes we made to attributes and buidling/upgrading players. Again, I am by no means down playing your history or experience with the software, but I doubt anyone has spent as much time studying the software as he did. I honestly don't think anyone ever should put THAT much time into a sim basketball software, but again we always said he was a robot.
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