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Post by jlafavor on May 6, 2010 12:59:34 GMT -6
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GAME
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Post by GAME on May 6, 2010 13:03:21 GMT -6
I vote no ....I dont like a 3 time all star that never won a campionship,plus u can find a 20/10 point guard anywere ...we need to have them in higher standard cuz game super sizes PGs
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Doogie
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Post by Doogie on May 6, 2010 14:37:32 GMT -6
i voted no same as games plus only one all league something
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Post by jlafavor on May 6, 2010 14:52:06 GMT -6
i voted no same as games plus only one all league something i havent decided on my vote yet, but its hard to hold the all league awards against him as this was as tough a time for PG's as we will ever have.
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Doogie
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Post by Doogie on May 6, 2010 15:04:13 GMT -6
yeah but credentials mean a lot too...and if he had them i would say yes but just my opinion on the matter he was good no doubt but idk about hof material
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nyk2013
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Post by nyk2013 on May 7, 2010 19:44:33 GMT -6
I voted yes, the numbers are there 20 plus pts, asts, 40% on 3's, very good ft shooter. Only real knock on him is the turnovers. Had some really great years form 90-93 too.
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Post by arrestinu on May 8, 2010 0:34:59 GMT -6
I voted yes. And I refuse to count it against him that he never won a championship. He took the Pacers to the playoffs every year, and even captained some nice upsets when they got there. The Bulls/Heat/Knicks domination of the East during his playing days hurt the Pacers title chases.
I like his numbers too, except for the turnovers. But the Pacers pushed the ball up the floor, so they are a bit inflated I think. I think Zeke may be a good measuring stick for PG's in their career, as far as scoring/passing combo PG's.
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Post by John1974 on May 8, 2010 7:32:52 GMT -6
I voted yes. While the numbers are solid they dont compare to a few other PG's but the pacers never put the type of players around him like the Wolves/Bulls did for mookie, and others did for other PG's. I think with the teams the Pacers had Zeek did the best he could, and they did make alot of playoffs. Its to bad the team the pacers have now couldnt include neek.
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voker84
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Post by voker84 on May 8, 2010 7:46:48 GMT -6
This was a tough one and definitely not a slam dunk Yes. With that being said Zeke led my Pacers to the playoffs in all but one of the seasons he had with the Pacers. I hardly ever used him as a scoring option so his scoring numbers are deflated if anything. IMO he was one of not the best 'pure point guard' in ITP history, the reason he didn't have more all star appearances is that Magic (a PF masquerading a PG and possibly the best player ever in ITP history) and Drazen Petrovic (a SG turned PG) who put up monster numbers for some years with the Knicks.
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Post by gritter13 on May 9, 2010 15:32:02 GMT -6
I had to vote yes, he was great for a number of years.
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Post by jlafavor on May 9, 2010 19:11:25 GMT -6
i decided on yes.
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Post by igotid32 on May 9, 2010 19:30:11 GMT -6
I voted yes. ITP's all time leader in assists. Better players may come along later and surpass those records, but Zeke came first and did it at an extremely high level for 15 seasons. You don't have to be the best player ever at your position to get into the HoF, just a historical one and Thomas is that. I think he's a good benchmark to have when it comes to looking at PGs.
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Post by yourkers15 on May 9, 2010 21:43:28 GMT -6
I voted yes. 7 triple doubles, 7 player of the week, 2 player of the month. He was also a good scorer and shooter, nice %s and he was one of the bigggest reasons the Pacers had success.
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Post by t5commander on May 9, 2010 21:45:51 GMT -6
I voted yes. Great numbers for 15 seasons
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josh
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Post by josh on May 10, 2010 13:53:42 GMT -6
I voted yes here.
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Post by scarface132 on May 10, 2010 14:11:10 GMT -6
You can't really find a 20-10 point guard anywhere, especially one that is as productive, and not that turnover prone, plus one that really took the Pacers on his back year after year into the postseason. I vote yes.
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Doogie
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Post by Doogie on May 10, 2010 15:20:31 GMT -6
blalock ...dumars...price...hardaway lol there are a lot of them out there...
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Post by Keyser Soze on May 12, 2010 14:54:21 GMT -6
4 isn't a lot. Thats like 15 % of the league, with the other 85 % looking for an upgrade. In the meantime Isiah was giving Indiana 11 years of 20/10. Hall of Famer.
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Post by jlafavor on May 19, 2010 15:14:54 GMT -6
Voting closed, Isiah Thomas is in the HOF
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