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Post by Pepe Silvia on Dec 8, 2023 9:17:05 GMT -6
Pacers Trade: Jermaine O'neal Fred Brown Andrea Bargnani 10 Clippers 1st 11,12 Pacers 1sts
Pistons Trade: Zach LaVine Dwight Jones Kevin Duckworth
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Post by lionsbryan on Dec 8, 2023 9:21:02 GMT -6
Pacers agree. I feel like I'm paying a kings ransom here but the idea of having a core of PG-Ford, SG-Lavine, and SF-Mash is too tantalizing.
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Post by Pepe Silvia on Dec 8, 2023 9:45:31 GMT -6
edited to correct the draft pick years. also if anyone know where i can find the 10 draft class that would be helpful
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Post by lionsbryan on Dec 8, 2023 9:46:10 GMT -6
Agree to the edit. Thanks.
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Post by jupee on Dec 8, 2023 10:05:39 GMT -6
edited to correct the draft pick years. also if anyone know where i can find the 10 draft class that would be helpful not announced yet usually few sims after all-stars
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Post by Pepe Silvia on Dec 8, 2023 10:09:20 GMT -6
edited to correct the draft pick years. also if anyone know where i can find the 10 draft class that would be helpful not announced yet usually few sims after all-stars thank you
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Post by Keyser Soze on Dec 8, 2023 11:23:48 GMT -6
not announced yet usually few sims after all-stars thank you Were you informed by the Pacers that Fred Brown is out for the next 66 days? Because I see you're starting him at SG and making him your #1 option.
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Post by Pepe Silvia on Dec 8, 2023 11:32:38 GMT -6
Were you informed by the Pacers that Fred Brown is out for the next 66 days? Because I see you're starting him at SG and making him your #1 option. I didn't realize that, but thats ok
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Post by Keyser Soze on Dec 8, 2023 11:37:04 GMT -6
Were you informed by the Pacers that Fred Brown is out for the next 66 days? Because I see you're starting him at SG and making him your #1 option. I didn't realize that, but thats ok So he didn't even bother to tell you? Come on lionsbryan who does that? And he just joined the league.
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Post by beatonz on Dec 8, 2023 11:37:17 GMT -6
Don’t understand this trade from the Pistons perspective. They give away the two best players in the deal and get no stars in return or any good future draft picks.
Do I think it’s bad enough to veto? No. But just doesn’t make sense with from a talent perspective. Especially for a team sitting at the top of the East.
I’m probably a little biased because I was the Pistons proxy.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Dec 8, 2023 11:41:48 GMT -6
Don’t understand this trade from the Pistons perspective. They give away the two best players in the deal and get no stars in return or any good future draft picks. Do I think it’s bad enough to veto? No. But just doesn’t make sense with from a talent perspective. Especially for a team sitting at the top of the East. I’m probably a little biased because I was the Pistons proxy. Never end a message with your 2nd thought. Because your 1st thought is uaually the one thats right.
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Post by Pepe Silvia on Dec 8, 2023 11:43:51 GMT -6
Don’t understand this trade from the Pistons perspective. They give away the two best players in the deal and get no stars in return or any good future draft picks. Do I think it’s bad enough to veto? No. But just doesn’t make sense with from a talent perspective. Especially for a team sitting at the top of the East. I’m probably a little biased because I was the Pistons proxy. I appreciate your perspective, and I know LaVine is a stud. The other offers I got were pretty terrible and while the team is very good, I'd like to build something myself instead. I've been in FBB leagues for 12 years, I know what I'm doing and it'll be ok.
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Post by beatonz on Dec 8, 2023 12:13:33 GMT -6
Don’t understand this trade from the Pistons perspective. They give away the two best players in the deal and get no stars in return or any good future draft picks. Do I think it’s bad enough to veto? No. But just doesn’t make sense with from a talent perspective. Especially for a team sitting at the top of the East. I’m probably a little biased because I was the Pistons proxy. I appreciate your perspective, and I know LaVine is a stud. The other offers I got were pretty terrible and while the team is very good, I'd like to build something myself instead. I've been in FBB leagues for 12 years, I know what I'm doing and it'll be ok. I understand. Just seems rushed to trade a top 5 player in the league for scraps. Hell the Raptors could have put a package together with much more valuable 1sts and better players then what you got. Didn’t realize you were dealing him for so cheap.
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Post by lionsbryan on Dec 8, 2023 12:37:35 GMT -6
I didn't realize that, but thats ok So he didn't even bother to tell you? Come on lionsbryan who does that? And he just joined the league. We made this trade in about a 10 minute time span and I was driving and using my phone. The injury didn't really cross my mind. With a trade of this magnitude it's not like either of us were making it for the next 60 games anyways, we're making it with multiple seasons in mind. Also the criticism in this thread is rich. I paid out of my ass for LaVine and the Pistons GM wants to mold his team in his own image so God bless. O'Neal, Fred and 3 1sts alone is a ton for any single player. He also got Bargnani. All I'm gonna say is this league has some people in it who will criticize trades on a regular basis but offer you the dookiest garbage in PMs. I'd love to know who had a LaVine offer in that was better than this. The last GM who had LaVine tried to trade him to me for the #4 pick last offseason and I turned it down because I was stupid. Where was the market for him then? Where was the market for him now?
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Post by lionsbryan on Dec 8, 2023 12:42:22 GMT -6
I appreciate your perspective, and I know LaVine is a stud. The other offers I got were pretty terrible and while the team is very good, I'd like to build something myself instead. I've been in FBB leagues for 12 years, I know what I'm doing and it'll be ok. I understand. Just seems rushed to trade a top 5 player in the league for scraps. Hell the Raptors could have put a package together with much more valuable 1sts and better players then what you got. Didn’t realize you were dealing him for so cheap. 100% hyperbole. You couldn't beat my package at all without trading Killian.
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Post by lionsbryan on Dec 8, 2023 12:51:41 GMT -6
FDA made me feel bad about the Fred injury thing, I honestly didn't hide it maliciously. If the Pistons GM doesn't want to do this anymore because of that I'm on board with that, but I don't think it's a big factor for him.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Dec 8, 2023 13:03:42 GMT -6
I understand. Just seems rushed to trade a top 5 player in the league for scraps. Hell the Raptors could have put a package together with much more valuable 1sts and better players then what you got. Didn’t realize you were dealing him for so cheap. 100% hyperbole. You couldn't beat my package at all without trading Killian. Idk about that. He got a nets 1st in 2011 draft. Same Nets that hold a 13-31 record this year. A future wizards pick too. Plus expirings. A package that would make a lot of sense for a team thays trying to start over in their own vision.
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Post by beatonz on Dec 8, 2023 15:06:23 GMT -6
So he didn't even bother to tell you? Come on lionsbryan who does that? And he just joined the league. We made this trade in about a 10 minute time span and I was driving and using my phone. The injury didn't really cross my mind. With a trade of this magnitude it's not like either of us were making it for the next 60 games anyways, we're making it with multiple seasons in mind. Also the criticism in this thread is rich. I paid out of my ass for LaVine and the Pistons GM wants to mold his team in his own image so God bless. O'Neal, Fred and 3 1sts alone is a ton for any single player. He also got Bargnani. All I'm gonna say is this league has some people in it who will criticize trades on a regular basis but offer you the dookiest garbage in PMs. I'd love to know who had a LaVine offer in that was better than this. The last GM who had LaVine tried to trade him to me for the #4 pick last offseason and I turned it down because I was stupid. Where was the market for him then? Where was the market for him now? Why can’t people give their thoughts on trades? I have no problem with this trade going through. In fact I even stated that in my original post because I knew you would react this way. Again I’m not coming at either of the owners who were involved in this trade. I was just giving my thoughts on it which I welcome anyone to do whenever I make a trade.
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Post by lionsbryan on Dec 8, 2023 15:27:24 GMT -6
We made this trade in about a 10 minute time span and I was driving and using my phone. The injury didn't really cross my mind. With a trade of this magnitude it's not like either of us were making it for the next 60 games anyways, we're making it with multiple seasons in mind. Also the criticism in this thread is rich. I paid out of my ass for LaVine and the Pistons GM wants to mold his team in his own image so God bless. O'Neal, Fred and 3 1sts alone is a ton for any single player. He also got Bargnani. All I'm gonna say is this league has some people in it who will criticize trades on a regular basis but offer you the dookiest garbage in PMs. I'd love to know who had a LaVine offer in that was better than this. The last GM who had LaVine tried to trade him to me for the #4 pick last offseason and I turned it down because I was stupid. Where was the market for him then? Where was the market for him now? Why can’t people give their thoughts on trades? I have no problem with this trade going through. In fact I even stated that in my original post because I knew you would react this way. Again I’m not coming at either of the owners who were involved in this trade. I was just giving my thoughts on it which I welcome anyone to do whenever I make a trade. I have no problem that you shared your thoughts, man. But when you share your thoughts you are opening discourse, and so I shared my thoughts about what the trade market really looks like.
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Post by John1974 on Dec 9, 2023 16:30:08 GMT -6
Done.
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