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Post by Keyser Soze on Jul 5, 2009 22:58:41 GMT -6
"The Boston Celtics have reached an agreement with Rasheed Wallace, according to a source.
Wallace is expected to get a two-year deal using the mid-level exception (expected to be about $5.6 million to $5.8 million).
Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce, owner Wyc Grousbeck, coach Doc Rivers, and president Danny Ainge met with Wallace last week. Wallace turned down overtures from Orlando and San Antonio to commit to Boston."
I never liked Boston, but I always have been a fan of Sheed. Will they put him in the starting lineup? Sheed-KG-Pierce-Ray-Rondo (5 formers all-stars/all-star caliber players)? Or will Perkins remain in, and Sheed backs up the C and PF?
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Post by legend on Jul 5, 2009 23:05:09 GMT -6
Should be a really good pickup. Just need Garnett to get back to close to 100%
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Post by Keyser Soze on Jul 5, 2009 23:07:27 GMT -6
It should be, after a trade Sheed always becomes motivated. Like how he became the final piece for the Pistons championship team. I think he just got bored in Detroit the last few years.
Also it's gonna be cool seeing him and KG together. In the West they used always battle it out on the Wolves and Blazers, now they're on the same team.
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Post by legend on Jul 5, 2009 23:19:09 GMT -6
I think it all depends on how healthy KG is in regards to starting him. If KG isn't 100% I can seem him backing up C and PF to have that strong backup to KG and still getting him minutes with him as well.
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Post by yourkers15 on Jul 6, 2009 0:04:14 GMT -6
i see him being the backup. but when it comes to the 4th quarter he will get the minutes over perkins. it makes more sense because perkins can bang downlow in the beginning of the game and sheed will be the guy who brings the extra dimention at the end of the game. wish he would of went to the spurs.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Jul 6, 2009 0:36:00 GMT -6
You already got RJ, don't be greedy!
But how bout all the contenders loading up though. Lakers get artest, Magic get Vince, Spurs get Jefferson, Celts get Sheed.
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Post by yourkers15 on Jul 6, 2009 1:38:48 GMT -6
its good to see
means this year will have a lot to be looked at. I like when plenty of people switch teams. Gives for good storylines.
The only one I dont like much was the magic getting VC. He has shows that his game has fallen off some, or he just was not interested in the nets anymore. With him it is a coin flip. Plus they gave a bunch to get him while the others got their top players for free. You might think other wise but think of it this way, getting vince cost them Lee and the ability to resign Hedo. So unless VC goes back to his old form to me the magic lose out on the deal.
But this year shall be a good one and I hope to see more things happen with in this next week. Maybe a couple trades and AI getting signed.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Jul 6, 2009 1:48:27 GMT -6
At first I was thinking the Magic downgraded their roster, but now I think they'll be fine. Vince Carter has been declining, but the man is still clutch, and that's where he"ll be replacing Hedo, as the big shot taker. Also like you said he got bored in Jersey just like he did with Toronto. Going to a championship contender will give him a spark, at least for this season.
That 5 year/53 mil deal Toronto gave Hedo was brutal. In 2 years they're gonna think "what the hell did we do", so Magic may have been better off letting him go.
They got Vince replacing Hedo at SF, Rashard at PF, Dwight at C that's still a great front court. Nelson is back from his injury to play the point. Then there's Pietrus who made Courtney Lee expendable with his playoff performance. That's a great starting 5, they just gotta solidify their bench.
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Post by ricaug7 on Jul 6, 2009 3:14:34 GMT -6
All I have to say is...
LBJ to the Knicks in 2010!!!
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Post by legend on Jul 6, 2009 4:27:57 GMT -6
All I have to say is... LBJ to the Knicks in 2010!!! It's good to have dreams.
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Post by yourkers15 on Jul 6, 2009 13:12:08 GMT -6
At first I was thinking the Magic downgraded their roster, but now I think they'll be fine. Vince Carter has been declining, but the man is still clutch, and that's where he"ll be replacing Hedo, as the big shot taker. Also like you said he got bored in Jersey just like he did with Toronto. Going to a championship contender will give him a spark, at least for this season. That 5 year/53 mil deal Toronto gave Hedo was brutal. In 2 years they're gonna think "what the hell did we do", so Magic may have been better off letting him go. They got Vince replacing Hedo at SF, Rashard at PF, Dwight at C that's still a great front court. Nelson is back from his injury to play the point. Then there's Pietrus who made Courtney Lee expendable with his playoff performance. That's a great starting 5, they just gotta solidify their bench. I think Lee will be better then what people think he will be. I see him becoming a very good shooter and defender. He also had a good playoffs outside of that missed layup. I think Torento will be fine with Hedo. He is a big mismatch and I think he will be a consistent 16-20 ppg, and 5 assists and 5 rebounds. If it keeps Bosh in Toronto it will make it even better. I also think it will sell more tickets as there is a high turkish commuinity in Toronto. So all an all the contract will do beter then worse. With the Magic that it the thing I fear. Is that Carter has one good year left, and once he is done they see Lee killin in in Jersey/Brooklyn. Also it probably wont be LBJ, but it will be STAT 2010 in NYC.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Jul 6, 2009 16:26:48 GMT -6
We're talking about a 30 year old player, who's only gonna get worse from here. A 30 year old inconsistent player who was nothing until he was on the same court as Rashard Lewis and Dwight Howard. Plus he got his money, he's in his comfortable turkish community, his wife is happy, where's the motivation?
I mean 16.8 PPG on 41 FG % is that really worth almost 11mil per year? 2009 is the FA class for the 2nd tier guys (Next year's the main coure), and they're getting overpaid (Hedo and Ben Gordon). I just think by 2010 or 2011 Hedo will be on the trade block.
Lee could be a good young player, but my point is they'll be fine with Pietrus. Pietrus is young too, he's a very good defender and a great spot up shooter. He outplayed Lee throughout the postseason.
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Post by yourkers15 on Jul 6, 2009 16:39:36 GMT -6
But to play for 2010 is a big risk. Who knows for sure who will opt out. They all could easily stay where they are and the teams that were holding off for the possibilty are screwed.
Turk never did much because he was never given the shot. He went to the Magic and they said here, this is what we want you to do, and we know you can succeed.
There was no team that gave him the controls to the car and allowed him to be clutch.
I was mad when the Spurs let him go, because he was very good for us when he came off the bench. Also mad we let Jackson go as well.
The raptors migh have over paid but if it keeps Bosh it would be worth it. The only thing is his role will be a little different as Calderon will have the ball in his hands. But I think he will work with Toronto and they should be back to what they were a couple years ago.
For Ben Gordon you can not deny what he did in the playoffs, and he is a very big time player whne it comes down to drunch time. I think they overpaid but they had to if they wanted to get him.
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Post by joshbounds on Jul 6, 2009 16:40:59 GMT -6
I like the move...
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Post by Keyser Soze on Jul 6, 2009 17:15:45 GMT -6
I rather give myself a chance in 2010 than screw myself in 2009. Like you said Hedo's gonna have to adjust to a new role in Toronto, now you take away Hedo's strength (His playmaking ability) and all you got left is a very inconsistent scorer. Orlando was a just a beautiful situation for him, Rashard outside, Dwight inside, and Hedo was able to sneak up on you. Now that won't happen.
Andrea, Bosh, and Hedo might be the softest front court I ever seen. When those guys get muscled in the playoffs Bosh is still gonna leave. This move isn't gonna keep Bosh there, not like they signed some franchise player, they got an average player who had a nice postseason to earn a big paycheck.
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Post by yourkers15 on Jul 6, 2009 18:34:49 GMT -6
In Orlando he was consistent. Yes his shooting %s were low but im sure he was taking to many contested shots.
But he showed he can get to the line and he is good in the 4th quarter. Yes they are going to be pretty soft in the front court, but Hedo did show he is a pretty good defender and is not afraid to defend.
I also dont see how you can just call him average, he brings alot to the table and if they raptors use him correctly he will put up similar numbers and maybe better %s. To me he is above average, but not a star. He is a player who got better when he was given the chance. He also is a good playoff player.
The Raptors could regret it if they dont use him the way he should be. If they think he will be a very good spot up shooter they will be disappointed. But if they allow him to have his touches like he did in Orlando they could be very good. They also would be better off if they got a banger downlow to give them some toughness.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Jul 6, 2009 18:53:48 GMT -6
Check the game logs sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=86221 points (7/13), next game 10 points (3/16) 35 points (11/21), 15 points (3/13) 23 points (8/20), 3 points (3/13) 22 points (10/16), 13 points (5/17) 24 point (8/16), 13 points (4/18) And I could keep going, and going with more 10 examples. And thats just the regular season, let's see postseason. Game 3 vs Philly: 11 points 2/12 Game 4 vs Philly: 17 points 8/11 Game 5 vs Philly: 9 points 3/14 Game 6 vs Philly: 12 points 5/8 Game 3 vs Bos: 24 points 8/12 Game 4 vs Bos: 11 points 4/14 Game 5 vs Bos: 18 points 7/14 Game 6 vs Bos: 7 points 3/13 Game 7 vs Bos: 25 points 9/12 Game 2 vs Cle: 21 points 9/17 Game 3 vs Cle: 13 points 1/11 Game 5 vs Cle: 29 points 10/18 Game 6 vs Cle: 10 points 3/12 Game 1 vs LAL: 13 points 3/11 Game 2 vs LAL: 22 points 8/17 "In Orlando he was consistent." What???
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Post by yourkers15 on Jul 6, 2009 19:17:12 GMT -6
every player can have an on day off day. There were times when he was shooting crazy good. The series vs the Lakers he was the best player for Orlando.
But you can show one good game to one bad one. Its not that hard. If you expect someone to shoot the same every game you are expecting to much. Kobe scorers 30 but sometimes he can take 40 shots to get it. Same with Lebron. But because they are big time players it is not seen in the same way.
The last two years in Orlando he showed he can be a big time scorer, even if he shoots on and off so much. He will find a way to scorer. He is also someone who gets to the line a decent amount. I believe it was like 4 or 5 times.
Maybe saying "consistent" was to much, but you saying he is "average" is on the same level.
I would bet Turks averages will go up when he does not have the ball in his hands as much. He will take better shots and he should shoot close to 45%.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Jul 6, 2009 19:28:22 GMT -6
There's a difference between having an off day, and having an off day every other game. He's more inconsistent than Jamal Crawford (I never thought I would say that about anybody).
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Post by yourkers15 on Jul 6, 2009 19:52:05 GMT -6
you must really have something against him or something.
He showed he can step up when needed, and all he needs to do is stop taking forced shots. If he stops forcing and becomes more selective he should be fine. He also should attack the basket more, he should allow himself to get to the line more as he is a good free throw shooter.
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