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Post by lionsbryan on Mar 29, 2024 12:47:39 GMT -6
The idea in and of itself still gives high spending teams more lines in the water. In the situation you described where a presumably well-run team has signed two more vet FAs than they can afford, I'm sure they can easily navigate their way out of it (also opening up trade scenarios to lesser teams).
In my opinion, to keep a league running for as long as possible, it is very important to make pro-parity moves and this would not be one.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Mar 29, 2024 12:47:45 GMT -6
And this logic that it makes the rich richer and the poor poorer?
How? What drastic changes occur in terms of league balance? Under the current rules you're allowed to go over the hardcap in FA. And then when you go over, you get to pick which guys to keep, which guys to trade. You have an option. You have a choice.
Making it so much more beneficial for the "rich". As opposed to not having a choice. You signed this super league minimum bargain guy. He puts you over the hard Cap. You wanna keep him? Too bad. You're over the hard Cap. You lose him. So wouldn't that hurt the "rich"?
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Post by lionsbryan on Mar 29, 2024 13:02:15 GMT -6
I feel like you're either just not understanding my point or you're purposely ignoring it. I'll try again. If you add another layer of insulation to protect teams from going over the HC it will naturally result in teams near the HC being more aggressive in FA bids. This is the opposite of beneficial to high cap space teams who are trying to build in FA.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Mar 29, 2024 13:33:31 GMT -6
I feel like you're either just not understanding my point or you're purposely ignoring it. I'll try again. If you add another layer of insulation to protect teams from going over the HC it will naturally result in teams near the HC being more aggressive in FA bids. This is the opposite of beneficial to high cap space teams who are trying to build in FA. I feel like you're either just not understanding my point or you're purposely ignoring it. I'll try again. THE CURRENT SYSTEM BENEFITS THE "RICH"This hardcap is as much of a deterrence as a Freddy Fazbear Pizzeria security guard. Did it deter you? Were you shaking in your boots because the hardcap was closing in on you? No. You signed who you wanted to sign. You went over the hardcap. And then traded the leftovers. Right? So what changes? You know what changes? You know what really changes? Day 1 of FA. Lets say a team is at 90mil. And they have a max FA that they wanna retain. Who does that apply to? THE RICH. And when they're able to go over the hardcap to retain said FA who does that benefit? THE RICH. Under these new rules, that FA would go right back to free agency. You wanna keep your guy? Get further under the hard Cap. You can't do that? Too bad. Your free agent is now prone to sign with another team with max cap space. And who would that benefit? THE POOR. And what would that create? PARITY
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Post by jupee on Mar 29, 2024 13:34:51 GMT -6
I feel like you're either just not understanding my point or you're purposely ignoring it. I'll try again. If you add another layer of insulation to protect teams from going over the HC it will naturally result in teams near the HC being more aggressive in FA bids. This is the opposite of beneficial to high cap space teams who are trying to build in FA. Do you understand that with my suggestion they would lose the player they signed? Whats the point of being agressive then? Coz now they simply sign player with money the don't have and gets bailed out later. Current rules are the ones that benefits ultra agressive bidders.
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Post by John1974 on Mar 29, 2024 13:40:42 GMT -6
Reviewing hard cap takes a couple seconds by just looking at the salary page. Exactly - so removing one player back to FA is few more seconds ^^ Most wouldn't go into fa as fa would be over. That's the problem. So then you would have to hold up sim to hold a bid war and that's the issue. You cannot just dump him back into fa at that point. Most Teams go over hard cap on last fa.
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Post by John1974 on Mar 29, 2024 13:42:52 GMT -6
And it doesn't hurt any teams. We have penalties that used to get implemented along, but not much as many don't go over hard cap like they used to
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Post by Keyser Soze on Mar 29, 2024 13:44:48 GMT -6
Exactly - so removing one player back to FA is few more seconds ^^ Most wouldn't go into fa as fa would be over. That's the problem. So then you would have to hold up sim to hold a bid war and that's the issue. You cannot just dump him back into fa at that point. Most Teams go over hard cap on last fa. Simple solution. Sign to 15 is at 7 PM. Sign to 12 is at 6 PM. Right? You know what we could do at 5 PM? Under 30 win teams get first dibs. And it's no extra work. All you gotta do is copy and paste from the under 30 win list from the trades forum. Those "POOR" teams benefit. And there's your PARITY
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Post by lionsbryan on Mar 29, 2024 13:49:17 GMT -6
It would greatly benefit people who are fast on the sign 12 to 15 threads (me).
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Post by Keyser Soze on Mar 29, 2024 13:55:49 GMT -6
It would greatly benefit people who are fast on the sign 12 to 15 threads (me). Are you an under 30 win team? No. So being fast would mean absolutely nothing. Because the lesser teams scoped up all the high quality sign 12/15 talent before it's your turn. Isn't that What you wanted Mr Pro-Parity? We could throw in a wrinkle. Of only 1 FA signing per post. In the 5pm under 30 win wave. Creating a further distribution of that talent. Creating even more PARITY
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Post by lionsbryan on Mar 29, 2024 14:27:49 GMT -6
So you want the building teams to try to not hit 12 before the end of FA so they can poach off the best scraps.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Mar 29, 2024 14:47:45 GMT -6
Isn’t that what you did with the Jazz? Had 9 players on the roster so you could “poach off the best scraps”? Jazz sign John Wallace Marcus Hatten Myles Turner If you can do it, why can’t they? It’s a fair strategy. Sacrifice now to benefit later. And this would be a benefit right? To the lesser teams that you’re so concerned about. To form that pro parity league that you keep preaching.
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