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Post by John1974 on Nov 1, 2023 12:56:55 GMT -6
Created players will only get their 2 free camps while elgible for D league. No other spending will be allowed as they are 1st round talent due to potential, etc.
This change will start at season flip of next season.
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Post by beatonz on Nov 1, 2023 13:14:21 GMT -6
We should make this change after next years training camp to allow everyone a chance to create a player
The reason this matters is because if created players are created now. They have essentially missed out on a training camp at the age of 18.
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Post by kipper on Nov 1, 2023 13:17:24 GMT -6
to this day, i still do not know how to get a created players
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Post by jupee on Nov 1, 2023 13:50:57 GMT -6
to this day, i still do not know how to get a created players You need to create them hehe
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Post by jupee on Nov 1, 2023 13:51:49 GMT -6
Created players will only get their 2 free camps while elgible for D league. No other spending will be allowed as they are 1st round talent due to potential, etc. This change will start at season flip of next season. Should also cost more, like 1k or smth
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Post by beatonz on Nov 1, 2023 14:31:15 GMT -6
Created players will only get their 2 free camps while elgible for D league. No other spending will be allowed as they are 1st round talent due to potential, etc. This change will start at season flip of next season. Should also cost more, like 1k or smth If you just couldn’t camp them and send them to D League it would be fine. It would be the same as the last iteration where created players would commonly become busts or role players. Very rarely all stars like everyone is becoming now. Maybe I am remembering this wrong. FDA, John or someone from the last iteration can correct me.
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Post by beatonz on Nov 1, 2023 14:37:45 GMT -6
Now that I think about it more I don’t think it was really utilized in the last iteration. I remember Kong created a busy SF but that’s about it.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Nov 1, 2023 14:54:11 GMT -6
We created a center happytailsnaturals.com/ITP7/2007/html/players/player3.htmHe turned into a solid roleplayer. And that was after 5 years in the D-League. But I remember he teen busted in his year 2 TC (dropped from 86 to 70 potential) In this version, some of these guys that really blew up got teen bumps. Hines had 100 potential after his year 2 TC. Hawkins is In the same boat he had 99 potential after his Year 2 TC
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Post by Kong on Nov 1, 2023 15:43:24 GMT -6
I remember Kong created a busy SF.
Gylfi Helguson. I would have created him in this iteration as well if I knew camps were allowed. I was under the impression that they weren't.
But in previous iteration, it was also more difficult to create one because those guys came with 7 year deals that you could not move. So if the created player sucked, you were stuck with a long term unnecessary contract.
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Post by John1974 on Nov 1, 2023 16:14:45 GMT -6
We created a center happytailsnaturals.com/ITP7/2007/html/players/player3.htmHe turned into a solid roleplayer. And that was after 5 years in the D-League. But I remember he teen busted in his year 2 TC (dropped from 86 to 70 potential) In this version, some of these guys that really blew up got teen bumps. Hines had 100 potential after his year 2 TC. Hawkins is In the same boat he had 99 potential after his Year 2 TC So far gone has been good to Potentials of created but it's random. It will even out too
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Post by Keyser Soze on Nov 1, 2023 16:34:07 GMT -6
In the last version we started with all rookies. Everybody was 19,20, 21 years old with high Potential. So I think it might have balanced out by having some unsuccessful TCs. With the created players in particular.
In this version it was mostly older players. With less potential around the league.
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Post by John1974 on Nov 8, 2023 17:23:07 GMT -6
we are going to change the following.
1. Change creating player every other year to every 4. 2. Created players can be camped the 2 free camps. And 1 focus camp and still go to D league. (No other improvement camps allowed after the 3 if player remains in D leagues.) 3. Cost to create will move from 500 to 1000.
This will go into effect as of Sim 1 of upcoming season.
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Post by beatonz on Nov 12, 2023 11:37:30 GMT -6
we are going to change the following. 1. Change creating player every other year to every 4. 2. Created players can be camped the 2 free camps. And 1 focus camp and still go to D league. (No other improvement camps allowed after the 3 if player remains in D leagues.) 3. Cost to create will move from 500 to 1000. This will go into effect as of Sim 1 of upcoming season. So are we going to grandfather this rule in? Any players created after sim 1 next season these rules will apply to? Any players created before sim 1 the old rules will apply to?
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Post by John1974 on Nov 12, 2023 13:21:17 GMT -6
Yes before sim one will be grandfathered in
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Post by Kong on Jan 7, 2024 9:17:22 GMT -6
I know I don't currently have a team. I am at the time doing some assisting and discussing with daboy about why Canadians do not count as domestic in MLS even though they have Canadian teams.
But I just wanted to share my 2 cents on camping late 1st rounders while on D-League. Maybe in case I can join back later. I don't know. I just had the time now so I wanted to post this.
So anyway, my opinion is that maybe you shouldn't allow it, lol. That's about it.
Why?
Well, 2nd rounders usually suck or have low enough potential to suck via a few camps but with late 1st rounders it is different.
Late 1st Rounder include at least 1 future MVP.
You see it with Maledon who didn't even go to the extra camps (because I don't think camps were allowed on late 1st rounders. At least not when I was with Clippers).
And obviously you have ITP6 (6?) Young.
And with Young you also got to consider that then camps were worth more for non d-league players then (although it is also true that players could go to camp until 30? but point remains).
And you also got players in this iteration like Mo Williams or Clint Capela that would have been stars if they went to D-League but didn't because they got minutes (no GM to take care of them).
Maledon, Young also did not have teen camp boosts to extra help them.
So basically, if you add camps to late 1st rounders you have an inflation on some really good players maybe even higher than that of previous iterations that in some cases almost even caused a restart. It is true that now players are limited to 4 years of camps as opposed to age limit (of 23? for itp7)
but yeah all things considered I would say that you probably don't want to allow late 1st rounders to go to camps while on d-league for the same reason why extra limitations on created players were added which is why I am posting this here.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Jan 7, 2024 12:48:59 GMT -6
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