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Post by lutonlol on May 17, 2022 14:20:02 GMT -6
Lakers send
Jamison Waiters Lakers 06 1st $350
Spurs send
Zach LaVine
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Post by lutonlol on May 17, 2022 14:24:40 GMT -6
Going to be interesting to see how this impacts Spurs.
Personally think Jamison/Pierce/Arenas is stronger than Pierce/La Vine/Arenas
Defense is a lot worse and with Pierce & Arenas as #1/2 option this could mess up the scoring a bit too. As #3 can't see LaVine getting anywhere close to his current numbers - possibly 22-24ppg?
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hooper
2nd Rounder
Celtics
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Post by hooper on May 18, 2022 9:45:03 GMT -6
Going to be interesting to see how this impacts Spurs. Personally think Jamison/Pierce/Arenas is stronger than Pierce/La Vine/Arenas Defense is a lot worse and with Pierce & Arenas as #1/2 option this could mess up the scoring a bit too. As #3 can't see LaVine getting anywhere close to his current numbers - possibly 22-24ppg? That’s about what he did with us. I had to upgrade from Lavine to Wiggins because FDA just obliterated him on defense. I camped his perm up to 70 which is a huge improvement but he had no stealing or drive D either. In the west it won’t matter as much, but that was a weak point for us.
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Post by yourkers15 on May 18, 2022 10:05:20 GMT -6
Lavine is a scoring machine. In this case he shouldn't turn the ball over as much and is a decent enough defender as I have seen him play really well against quality talent.
For me getting a pick/cash and better depth males more sense. Jamison thrived in my offense and I love waiters Contract.
Sucks that I won't have a lottery pick coming in this draft but maybe I can start dipping into the d league and build up some talent that way.
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Post by lutonlol on May 18, 2022 12:34:35 GMT -6
Lavine is a scoring machine. He was a scoring machine on a team that aside from him scored less than 70ppg. Clarkson has 960 FGA and LaVine has 1520 FGA! he WAS your offense. Personally I think Lakers overpaid but he needed to do something to match up with the Pacers and Cavs
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Post by yourkers15 on May 18, 2022 13:13:07 GMT -6
Lavine is a scoring machine. He was a scoring machine on a team that aside from him scored less than 70ppg. Clarkson has 960 FGA and LaVine has 1520 FGA! he WAS your offense. Personally I think Lakers overpaid but he needed to do something to match up with the Pacers and Cavs When a guy shoots those type of percentages don't you want him taking those shots? If I had a better SF and Center my team would of been pretty legit with him being the offense.
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Post by yourkers15 on May 18, 2022 13:16:46 GMT -6
Lavine isn't even top 5 of shots taken. Lavine is a better scorer than the shooters above him. So yeah still think your determination is far off. But to each their own.
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Post by lutonlol on May 18, 2022 16:19:28 GMT -6
Look I have a great deal of respect for Klomper who has won a lot of titles and knows a thing or two about players. So there is that. On the other hand we have a few monsters out there in the Pacers with four 23ppg+ players who are making 27fg per game (2.3 more than anyone else - that's like starting the game up 5-0) and the return of FDA and his Cavs with their Parker/Butler/Jackson trio plus Sullinger going 20/13 every game.
So given how much weaker the West is the Lakers whilst sporting a .788 record probably had some catching up to do and so he went searching for a bit more fire power. If he repeats then he wont give a fig about how much he paid and his pick will be worth diddly squat.
But if you are looking at a beast and it looks like a pig, squeals and smells like a pig then it's probably a pig - even if everyone else is telling you it's a butterfly. Pierce and LaVine have played a similar number of games (400) Pierce has 149 player of game awards, 10 player of the week, 2 player of the month, 79 double doubles and 7 triple doubles. La Vine has 49 pog and 27 double doubles - he's not a butterfly - and his record is worse than all bar 2 of the top ten in fga per game and they have only played about 150 games each
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Post by yourkers15 on May 18, 2022 16:46:44 GMT -6
Being the best scorer and best player are 2 very different things.
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