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Post by John1974 on Dec 15, 2021 10:40:10 GMT -6
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Post by John1974 on Dec 15, 2021 10:49:43 GMT -6
I might drop the amount you get per article back to 350 from 500 since we boosted that a few seasons ago when activity was low.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 16:14:54 GMT -6
Activity can get lower again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 16:15:54 GMT -6
Would make more sense to lower the maximum to 5, so less work for graders and less time required for those who don't want to take the time, if any move is gonna be made.
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Post by Daboy on Dec 16, 2021 19:28:29 GMT -6
I just hate limiting guys. I’ve never really like the article limits
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 19:43:50 GMT -6
I just hate limiting guys. I’ve never really like the article limits Agreed.
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Post by joecurry2 on Dec 17, 2021 2:33:51 GMT -6
don't limit the money limit the number of players we can get better to 3 a season and put a limit on how money is traded since in the NBA they have limits on cash exemptions between teams and for picks so maybe have a 1000 spending limit to trade players are picks and let people simply have the threads have 500 monetary value since this is the most the league has been jumping off in the past 5 years that way you can create a unnatural team by having all your players camped as well as not to have teams like @jayme96 trade 10,000 dollars for a high pick in upcoming drafts so the league can be based off of basketball knowledge and not necessarily resources this can be included in the Salery Cap if you like because this is ultimately a Salery Cap sort of deal
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 10:26:42 GMT -6
don't limit the money limit the number of players we can get better to 3 a season and put a limit on how money is traded since in the NBA they have limits on cash exemptions between teams and for picks so maybe have a 1000 spending limit to trade players are picks and let people simply have the threads have 500 monetary value since this is the most the league has been jumping off in the past 5 years that way you can create a unnatural team by having all your players camped as well as not to have teams like @jayme96 trade 10,000 dollars for a high pick in upcoming drafts so the league can be based off of basketball knowledge and not necessarily resources this can be included in the Salery Cap if you like because this is ultimately a Salery Cap sort of deal If you can't improve players, there's no point in having money. Some people get money for trades. I get money for camps. I have zero intention of adding more players to my roster, so I'm improving what I got. I drafted with this intention. If I couldn't camp them, I would've done what John did and drafted a bunch of scrubs with A potential and wished for luck in TC. You'd have zero control. I want control. If I can't control my players as I want, then this league would be a joke with camps and cash and all you do is say "same" every sim and wait for the fucking draft. But with no picks, that's pointless. If you can't use the cash for camps, and can't trade a lot of cash for picks or players, then why would someone trade those valuable picks/players? Your suggestion here would do nothing but kill all activity. I'd be gone for damn sure.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 10:27:16 GMT -6
But then again, maybe that's the intent. I'm winning, by playing by the rules, so maybe people want me gone. I'm sure getting that impression here.
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Post by clb8181 on Dec 17, 2021 11:07:49 GMT -6
But then again, maybe that's the intent. I'm winning, by playing by the rules, so maybe people want me gone. I'm sure getting that impression here. I wouldn't take it as personally as you are. It's not just you who's been taking advantage of these new rules. In all the years I've played in the league I haven't seen anyone make even remotely close as to what some people have been making lately. The concern is that this will allow people to make 3x more money than people who don't make articles and comment a lot. I think people who are active and post articles should be rewarded of course, but not to the point where others don't feel they can keep up competitively without doing something they don't want to/don't have time for. This will drive people out of the league, point blank.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 11:28:10 GMT -6
But then again, maybe that's the intent. I'm winning, by playing by the rules, so maybe people want me gone. I'm sure getting that impression here. I wouldn't take it as personally as you are. It's not just you who's been taking advantage of these new rules. In all the years I've played in the league I haven't seen anyone make even remotely close as to what some people have been making lately. The concern is that this will allow people to make 3x more money than people who don't make articles and comment a lot. I think people who are active and post articles should be rewarded of course, but not to the point where others don't feel they can keep up competitively without doing something they don't want to/don't have time for. This will drive people out of the league, point blank. People are specifically calling me out by name, so yeah it's personal. Talking about the Nets is the same thing as me too btw. Especially when you have people like Curry who have no clue saying I'll be buying picks. With what money? I spend it all on camps. That's what everyone....no not everyone, a few select people....are so pissed off about now. It can't be both ways. It's also not that big of a difference either. EVERYONE could have easily camped 4 players by now. Hell you could've camped 3 just from the money we started with and posting DCs and betting! I built my team properly, so we were going to be good regardless. The extra camps helped some, but not night and day difference. The statistical contributions I get from Shengelia and Kuzmic are not drastically different than they would've been. Kuzmic's ratings didn't even move and Shengelia's went from B+ to A- defense and that's it. There are people in this league doing a lot worse things than I'm doing. I've already said I'd prefer no money. Just give people 4 normal and 2 focus camps a year. Get rid of all the time commitment and even the playing field. But this is what we have, so I followed the rules and do what I do. Right now I have time. But soon (HOPEFULLY), when my fiance's visa is approved, I won't be on here much. I thought she'd be here by now, but we're still waiting. That's why it was all immediate for me. I looked at a season's worth of stuff and figured I'd get it out of the way. Others spread that out over time. I had no idea that would ruffle feathers at all, because the rules are the rules and I was playing by them. I didn't even camp guys till I had the articles graded and everything, so I wasn't going negative at the bank to do it.
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Post by clb8181 on Dec 17, 2021 11:37:15 GMT -6
I wouldn't take it as personally as you are. It's not just you who's been taking advantage of these new rules. In all the years I've played in the league I haven't seen anyone make even remotely close as to what some people have been making lately. The concern is that this will allow people to make 3x more money than people who don't make articles and comment a lot. I think people who are active and post articles should be rewarded of course, but not to the point where others don't feel they can keep up competitively without doing something they don't want to/don't have time for. This will drive people out of the league, point blank. People are specifically calling me out by name, so yeah it's personal. Talking about the Nets is the same thing as me too btw. Especially when you have people like Curry who have no clue saying I'll be buying picks. With what money? I spend it all on camps. That's what everyone....no not everyone, a few select people....are so pissed off about now. It can't be both ways. It's also not that big of a difference either. EVERYONE could have easily camped 4 players by now. Hell you could've camped 3 just from the money we started with and posting DCs and betting! I built my team properly, so we were going to be good regardless. The extra camps helped some, but not night and day difference. The statistical contributions I get from Shengelia and Kuzmic are not drastically different than they would've been. Kuzmic's ratings didn't even move and Shengelia's went from B+ to A- defense and that's it. There are people in this league doing a lot worse things than I'm doing. I've already said I'd prefer no money. Just give people 4 normal and 2 focus camps a year. Get rid of all the time commitment and even the playing field. But this is what we have, so I followed the rules and do what I do. Right now I have time. But soon (HOPEFULLY), when my fiance's visa is approved, I won't be on here much. I thought she'd be here by now, but we're still waiting. That's why it was all immediate for me. I looked at a season's worth of stuff and figured I'd get it out of the way. Others spread that out over time. I had no idea that would ruffle feathers at all, because the rules are the rules and I was playing by them. I didn't even camp guys till I had the articles graded and everything, so I wasn't going negative at the bank to do it. Just because you are one person doing what people have a problem with, doesn't mean they're attacking you and making it personal. The bigger picture here is not the effects this will cause season 1. It's what will happen in 3-5 years with some people accumulating a mass sum of money easily, and buying an easy championship team. Again, I'm not saying this about you, the fear has nothing to do with you. It's people forseeing how this will affect the league down the line. I agree with you that your team would've been very good without these camps, this is not all about you and your team. For me, it has nothing to do with it.
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Post by Kong on Dec 17, 2021 11:38:15 GMT -6
I write a good amount of articles some times but like I said in the last roundtable I agreed to put a more strict limit to it.
I proposed 1 Team article + 1 League Article + 2 Wildcards (League or Team Articles) in there.
Honestly, I don't really care either way but I can understand guys who ask for some more limits.
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Post by moneymarv704 on Dec 17, 2021 11:41:46 GMT -6
I wouldn't take it as personally as you are. It's not just you who's been taking advantage of these new rules. In all the years I've played in the league I haven't seen anyone make even remotely close as to what some people have been making lately. The concern is that this will allow people to make 3x more money than people who don't make articles and comment a lot. I think people who are active and post articles should be rewarded of course, but not to the point where others don't feel they can keep up competitively without doing something they don't want to/don't have time for. This will drive people out of the league, point blank. People are specifically calling me out by name, so yeah it's personal. Talking about the Nets is the same thing as me too btw. Especially when you have people like Curry who have no clue saying I'll be buying picks. With what money? I spend it all on camps. That's what everyone....no not everyone, a few select people....are so pissed off about now. It can't be both ways. It's also not that big of a difference either. EVERYONE could have easily camped 4 players by now. Hell you could've camped 3 just from the money we started with and posting DCs and betting! I built my team properly, so we were going to be good regardless. The extra camps helped some, but not night and day difference. The statistical contributions I get from Shengelia and Kuzmic are not drastically different than they would've been. Kuzmic's ratings didn't even move and Shengelia's went from B+ to A- defense and that's it. There are people in this league doing a lot worse things than I'm doing. I've already said I'd prefer no money. Just give people 4 normal and 2 focus camps a year. Get rid of all the time commitment and even the playing field. But this is what we have, so I followed the rules and do what I do. Right now I have time. But soon (HOPEFULLY), when my fiance's visa is approved, I won't be on here much. I thought she'd be here by now, but we're still waiting. That's why it was all immediate for me. I looked at a season's worth of stuff and figured I'd get it out of the way. Others spread that out over time. I had no idea that would ruffle feathers at all, because the rules are the rules and I was playing by them. I didn't even camp guys till I had the articles graded and everything, so I wasn't going negative at the bank to do it. Ayye bro do your thing you won’t hear me have any problems with it.
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Post by moneymarv704 on Dec 17, 2021 11:44:37 GMT -6
People are specifically calling me out by name, so yeah it's personal. Talking about the Nets is the same thing as me too btw. Especially when you have people like Curry who have no clue saying I'll be buying picks. With what money? I spend it all on camps. That's what everyone....no not everyone, a few select people....are so pissed off about now. It can't be both ways. It's also not that big of a difference either. EVERYONE could have easily camped 4 players by now. Hell you could've camped 3 just from the money we started with and posting DCs and betting! I built my team properly, so we were going to be good regardless. The extra camps helped some, but not night and day difference. The statistical contributions I get from Shengelia and Kuzmic are not drastically different than they would've been. Kuzmic's ratings didn't even move and Shengelia's went from B+ to A- defense and that's it. There are people in this league doing a lot worse things than I'm doing. I've already said I'd prefer no money. Just give people 4 normal and 2 focus camps a year. Get rid of all the time commitment and even the playing field. But this is what we have, so I followed the rules and do what I do. Right now I have time. But soon (HOPEFULLY), when my fiance's visa is approved, I won't be on here much. I thought she'd be here by now, but we're still waiting. That's why it was all immediate for me. I looked at a season's worth of stuff and figured I'd get it out of the way. Others spread that out over time. I had no idea that would ruffle feathers at all, because the rules are the rules and I was playing by them. I didn't even camp guys till I had the articles graded and everything, so I wasn't going negative at the bank to do it. Just because you are one person doing what people have a problem with, doesn't mean they're attacking you and making it personal. The bigger picture here is not the effects this will cause season 1. It's what will happen in 3-5 years with some people accumulating a mass sum of money easily, and buying an easy championship team. Again, I'm not saying this about you, the fear has nothing to do with you. It's people forseeing how this will affect the league down the line. I agree with you that your team would've been very good without these camps, this is not all about you and your team. For me, it has nothing to do with it. I’m all about spending cash anyway to make my team better. I will use it to buy players if I have too. They don’t call me money Marv for nothing lol.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 11:49:54 GMT -6
People are specifically calling me out by name, so yeah it's personal. Talking about the Nets is the same thing as me too btw. Especially when you have people like Curry who have no clue saying I'll be buying picks. With what money? I spend it all on camps. That's what everyone....no not everyone, a few select people....are so pissed off about now. It can't be both ways. It's also not that big of a difference either. EVERYONE could have easily camped 4 players by now. Hell you could've camped 3 just from the money we started with and posting DCs and betting! I built my team properly, so we were going to be good regardless. The extra camps helped some, but not night and day difference. The statistical contributions I get from Shengelia and Kuzmic are not drastically different than they would've been. Kuzmic's ratings didn't even move and Shengelia's went from B+ to A- defense and that's it. There are people in this league doing a lot worse things than I'm doing. I've already said I'd prefer no money. Just give people 4 normal and 2 focus camps a year. Get rid of all the time commitment and even the playing field. But this is what we have, so I followed the rules and do what I do. Right now I have time. But soon (HOPEFULLY), when my fiance's visa is approved, I won't be on here much. I thought she'd be here by now, but we're still waiting. That's why it was all immediate for me. I looked at a season's worth of stuff and figured I'd get it out of the way. Others spread that out over time. I had no idea that would ruffle feathers at all, because the rules are the rules and I was playing by them. I didn't even camp guys till I had the articles graded and everything, so I wasn't going negative at the bank to do it. Just because you are one person doing what people have a problem with, doesn't mean they're attacking you and making it personal. The bigger picture here is not the effects this will cause season 1. It's what will happen in 3-5 years with some people accumulating a mass sum of money easily, and buying an easy championship team. Again, I'm not saying this about you, the fear has nothing to do with you. It's people forseeing how this will affect the league down the line. I agree with you that your team would've been very good without these camps, this is not all about you and your team. For me, it has nothing to do with it. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 11:51:28 GMT -6
People are specifically calling me out by name, so yeah it's personal. Talking about the Nets is the same thing as me too btw. Especially when you have people like Curry who have no clue saying I'll be buying picks. With what money? I spend it all on camps. That's what everyone....no not everyone, a few select people....are so pissed off about now. It can't be both ways. It's also not that big of a difference either. EVERYONE could have easily camped 4 players by now. Hell you could've camped 3 just from the money we started with and posting DCs and betting! I built my team properly, so we were going to be good regardless. The extra camps helped some, but not night and day difference. The statistical contributions I get from Shengelia and Kuzmic are not drastically different than they would've been. Kuzmic's ratings didn't even move and Shengelia's went from B+ to A- defense and that's it. There are people in this league doing a lot worse things than I'm doing. I've already said I'd prefer no money. Just give people 4 normal and 2 focus camps a year. Get rid of all the time commitment and even the playing field. But this is what we have, so I followed the rules and do what I do. Right now I have time. But soon (HOPEFULLY), when my fiance's visa is approved, I won't be on here much. I thought she'd be here by now, but we're still waiting. That's why it was all immediate for me. I looked at a season's worth of stuff and figured I'd get it out of the way. Others spread that out over time. I had no idea that would ruffle feathers at all, because the rules are the rules and I was playing by them. I didn't even camp guys till I had the articles graded and everything, so I wasn't going negative at the bank to do it. Ayye bro do your thing you won’t hear me have any problems with it. Thanks. As long as people aren't bending rules or breaking them, it is what it is. If people choose to take opportunities that exist legally, it's all good.
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Post by joecurry2 on Dec 17, 2021 12:38:58 GMT -6
well with the NBA rules do change as well as John1974 has stated here since he values the league and ratings can have players averaging 40 points a Game so this is kinda a Keyser Soze rule since he did manage to have a relitvie good player in Nick Young to become this leagues Wilt Chamberlain Stephen Curry Michael Jordan type of player as I would say he sees the same with @klomper as well as@jayme96 yourself and he didn't want everyone to have a team simply off good players because then the teams who picked in the top 10 of the inaugural Expansion Draft to become so good that other GMs of lower teams or unpicked teams to have a unfair advantage so when I said it should be limited to 3 players it should since no team has infinite resources to make a player better instead using each GMs to construct and run a team instead of being always be bad which drives GMs to quit since that's what ends up happening so I would say 3 players can get camped to the max both the 2 500 style and 1 250 style to camp the players either that are you can camp up to 6 players with 1 500 camp and 3 players with a 250 style boost in the ratings while I say the 3 that would get the 250 should be 1 with a 500 camp as well if you have money for trades and such is always checked against cap regulations with the NBA as was here in the past so I would cap the player trading if cash to 1000 or something as well as 1000 for a pick or picks that way there's no glaring way to solely get better with money we all started with the same resources yet if it was in Real life teams like NY BK Bos Was LAs Dal Hou should have more money to start out with we didn't because John1974 values the league and done away with that so therefore he noticed a glaring hole and has decided to discuss it and pretty much I'm all for Fairness and Fair play since that's been what ingrained in me threw out my youth to an adult that I too see what he sees and actually tried to have a draft list implemented for maximum fairness this if he does change some of the rules either by lowering the Article monies to be lower I simply said keep that but to but restrictions like I denoted to be a way we move forward are where going to have to pay more for camps for what it's worth I don't particularly don't like writing that long do to only having a phone so I tend to have huge articles not published because I maybe in a drop zone underground on the Subway are by having it wiped out because I went off the page can't find which one it was since I do like to back up with stats are players performance to not be there which actually happen to me with this and with my history of multiple strokes it tends to cripple my head up since it was a stroke on the left side which effects your speech and behavioral patterns since I do become not being able to speak well or converse with others because I lost the ability to have a back and forth discussion with others so I don't talk and with typing I'm fine but to do this over again Is a sign that my head is improving but who would want or really has the time to Type as much as needed for an article so that's why I love the articles they should stay 500 however to put restrictions in place that would make this league better with better rules
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Post by solodolo on Dec 17, 2021 12:41:51 GMT -6
But then again, maybe that's the intent. I'm winning, by playing by the rules, so maybe people want me gone. I'm sure getting that impression here. Yes, please fuck off. Youre making the league unfun by requiring anyone who wants to compete to write fluff pieces for “engagement”. It’ll be a really engaged 6 team league.
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Post by joecurry2 on Dec 17, 2021 12:45:04 GMT -6
Yes, please fuck off. Youre making the league unfun by requiring anyone who wants to compete to write fluff pieces for “engagement”. It’ll be a really engaged 6 team league. I wonder if you read my suggestions it kinda mirrors you statements
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