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Post by joshbounds on Jun 21, 2009 19:07:39 GMT -6
Yes, these ratings below seem to be what the league as a whole agree on for these 20 players. The other Josh had the most consideration as far as ratings but every owner to post got a say in all the players/ratings.
Vlade Divac B C C+ A- B A
Shawn Kemp B+ C- C A- B+ A
Cliff Robinson B+ C+ C B+ B- A
Sean Elliot C+ B+ C B+ C + B
Glen Rice B A- C+ B+ C+ A
Nick Anderson B- B+ C A- C+ A
BJ Armstrong C A- B B+ D B
Dana Barros C+ A- C+ B D+ B
Mookie Blaylock C B B+ A C- A
Tim Hardaway B B+ A A- C A
Pervis Ellison B C C A- B B
Danny Ferry C+ C+ C C+ C+ A (100 Pot)
Stacy King B- C- C- B- B- A
JR Reid B- C- C- B- B- B
George McCloud B- C B B- C B
Pooh Richardson C+ C+ B+ B+ D+ B
Michael Smith B C C B- C+ C
Todd Litchi B C- C B C+ B
Byron Irving B- C+ C- B+ C+ B
Dino Radja B+ C C B B B
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Post by New York Knicks on Jun 21, 2009 22:02:15 GMT -6
Ya, his 1st ones did, but these above are revamped with Jazz Josh/Gritter/Youker/Hawks suggested starting ratings. They are very low compared to what Joshbounds suggested to start, my eyes got huge when I saw those. Low is good (Though not too low). You don't want a draft with like 15 all-stars right away. Especially this draft which is considered one of the worst ever according to Wiki. |
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Post by ryneegan on Jun 23, 2009 19:18:47 GMT -6
The edits look good now from Joshbounds post. I dont have any suggested changes to them.
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Post by New York Knicks on Jun 23, 2009 19:37:14 GMT -6
Agreed
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Post by jacksonlee on Jun 23, 2009 22:11:04 GMT -6
Agreed x2
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Post by donrnets on Jun 24, 2009 22:24:55 GMT -6
Does not the fact no player is rated above a B for inside offense seem a bit unusual for the whole draft class? . . . .If you all agree I defer to your wisdom. . .just raising the question?
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Post by ciggy20 on Jun 24, 2009 23:02:15 GMT -6
Just going by the players stats in the NBA, none of the players were very good down low. Kemp only averaged like 8 ppg his first year, same for Vlade. Other than those 2, the rest of the big men in this draft are average, at best.
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Post by New York Knicks on Jun 24, 2009 23:05:14 GMT -6
Does not the fact no player is rated above a B for inside offense seem a bit unusual for the whole draft class? . . . .If you all agree I defer to your wisdom. . .just raising the question? I see 3 guys over B on Joshbounds list (Cliff, Kemp, and Dino) |
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Post by New York Knicks on Jun 24, 2009 23:06:16 GMT -6
Just going by the players stats in the NBA, none of the players were very good down low. Kemp only averaged like 8 ppg his first year, same for Vlade. Other than those 2, the rest of the big men in this draft are average, at best. true |
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Post by John1974 on Jun 25, 2009 8:51:00 GMT -6
Does not the fact no player is rated above a B for inside offense seem a bit unusual for the whole draft class? . . . .If you all agree I defer to your wisdom. . .just raising the question? Yes this class should be weak. Yes we try to mirror NBA as much as possible but after all its a game and a bust in the NBA might luck out and be a star here. That is something that happens but what we can control is the starting ratings going into the draft. I dont think anyone should have above a B inside. If they develope more then they do if not then they dont.... but a B inside rating would be alot like what the real class was. When you guys get the edits figured out more I will put them into the class. |
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Post by John1974 on Jun 26, 2009 9:25:54 GMT -6
Bump.... lets get some final adjustments and get them edited.
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Post by New York Knicks on Jun 26, 2009 9:35:15 GMT -6
I thought Joshbounds final list was it
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Post by gritter13 on Jun 26, 2009 14:00:49 GMT -6
I agree, I think Josh's list is great.
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Post by John1974 on Jun 26, 2009 16:53:05 GMT -6
I agree, I think Josh's list is great. Then I'll work on editing the class going by it starting monday. |
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Post by joshbounds on Jun 28, 2009 21:17:46 GMT -6
The class isnt as bad as everyone says. It has 5 guys who should be studs. The reason why Wiki says the class was bad is strictly based on the fact the majority of the lotto picks were huge bust. But Divac, Kemp, Robinson, Rice, Hardaway were all big time players in their own right. And I am glad to see the league chose these ratings as it shows the draft as a whole is not terrible at all although it is clear that Kemp/Rice/Hardaway will and should go 1/2/3.. But on the other hand it means there are at least 20 decent project players in one way or another and it gives teams with lower picks a chance of getting a sleeper..
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Post by New York Knicks on Jun 28, 2009 22:57:02 GMT -6
I dont know about 5 studs. Divac has to be the worst player to ever get his jersey retired. 11.8 PPG 8.2 RPG 1.4 BPG is pretty solid, but is it studly?
I thought Kemp was a superstar back in the day, because I never seen him with my own eyes. I only saw the fat slow version in Cleveland and Portland. But looking at his stats from the Seattle days, not a single 20 PPG season?
Glenn Rice was a big time scorer in his day, I guess he could be this year's Mitch. Then Tim Hardaway should be a superstar point guard, and I guess Kemp should be a star as well. But thats about it when it comes to studs.
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Post by John1974 on Jun 29, 2009 10:02:34 GMT -6
I will be working on this after the sim.
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Post by detroitbasketball on Jun 29, 2009 10:48:23 GMT -6
i agree on these except tim hardaway is rated way too good for a rookie. his offense should be lowered to B- B, i think, as he will improve
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Post by New York Knicks on Jun 29, 2009 14:50:02 GMT -6
True, Tim looks by far better than all the top PG's that have come out last few years. A good training camp and he might be the 2nd best PG after Magic. Is he that good?
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Post by don1955 on Jun 29, 2009 14:58:25 GMT -6
just make sure that you'll make the draft deep enough as so when i start to use my 3 back of the pack picks i can get at least 1 player somewhat worthwhile... ;D
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