Post by beatonz on Jan 22, 2022 14:01:48 GMT -6
Tried to cover the bigger deals over the past week, feel like we need something to discuss over the weekend with John taking time off.
Thoughts? Which trades did I miss?
3rd League Article this season.
Trade #1:
To Pacers:
Damon Hancock
2004 Kings 1st
$1000
To Kings:
Kevin Murphy
Kings: Kings stocking up for a playoff run with some additional scoring and turnovers off the bench. A lot of mixed review on Muprhy around the league but can't deny his scoring ability and decent defense. Solid pick up for the Kings. (Trade Grade: B+)
Pacers: Pacer finishing up their team blow up by dealing the last remaining core piece in Murphy despite being in a top spot in the East. Good package in the return including a 1st in 2004 and $1000 cash. This is a good package for Murphy. Good work from the Pacers to find the right trade partner to get the most out of Murphy. The 1st will likely be a late first as the Kings are expected to be a high rated West team for years to come with the majority of their core players signed through 2004. (Trade Grade: B)
Trade #2:
To Celtics:
Chris Wilcox
To Kings:
Royal Ivey
2004 Celtics 1st
$300
Celtics: Win now move for a Celtics team that was desperate for a second big to play along side Embiid. But I don't think it is enough to help them compete in the East. Wilcox was having a solid rookie year, producing immediately out of the draft. The question will be how he develops, with lower potential he may not develop much more than a decent bench big. Giving up a 1st for Wilcox is fair, but the Celtics only have Embiid locked up beyond 2003 so the 1st in 2004 may hold high value if they can't maintain a playoff caliber team. Time will tell. (Trade Grade: C+)
Kings: A little big of a surprise to see Wilcox moved, as he was playing heavy minutes off the bench for the Kings helping them sit a top the Pacific division. Looking at their roster, the back up C/PF position is likely their weakest position now. This trade in no way makes them better now, but I'm assuming that 1st rounder was just to tempting to pass up. We will have to see if Pavel Podkolzin and Joel Przybilla will be enough come playoff time. (Trade Grade: C)
I honestly don't like this trade for either team considering the positions they are in. But time will tell whether the Kings got a steal with that 2004 1st.
Trade #3:
To Spurs:
Jeff Taylor
Bernard James
Dwayne Washington
To Pacers:
Noah Vonleh
2004 Spurs 1st
Spurs: No doubt a win now move. Giving up a potential defensive all team big like Vonleh is tough, but not when you receive three starting caliber players in return. Jeff Taylor is an incredible inside threat with stellar defense who in my opinion deserves a return similar to what the Pacers got in this trade alone. But on top of Taylor, the Pacers got Bernard James (all around good C) and Washington (good pass first, defensive PG). (Trade Grade: A)
Pacers: Not a big fan of this trade, feel they could have got more packaging these players individually. But the Pacers made it known they were rebuilding and wanted these players moved. As much as I don't like it, I do like Vonleh, just not as much as I think the Pacers value him. The 1st likely wont amount to much but you never know, the Spurs may decide to blow things up. (Trade Grade: C-)
Trade #4:
To Rockets:
Jamal Crawford
To 76ers:
2003 Rockets 1st
2003 Kings 1st
$350
To Kings:
$600
Rockets: Desperate for some back court scoring, Crawford fits the bill. Giving up $950 cash and a 2003 1st is steep but worth it in my eyes to attain a player capable of 20ppg. Houston is in the bottom of the league in scoring and this trade instantly helps address that. Crawford will continue to grow over the years and I expect he will be #1 option material. (Trade Grade: B+)
76ers: Rebuilding team, looking to deal all assets for 1sts and cash. Can't argue with the return here, although neither 1st project to be a top 10 pick, for a team in the 76ers tanking position, 1sts never hurt. Although, I think they drastically overpaid for the inclusion of the 2003 Kings 1st. (Trade Grade: B-)
Kings: Somehow the Kings sneak into this deal... and manage to get $600 for a projected late 1st round pick in 2003. (Trade Grade: A+)
Trade #5:
To Pistons:
2004 Pistons 1st
$250
To 76ers:
Andrew Nicholson
76ers: Good net return for a decent big man that had no future in Phili. This first could be a lottery pick looking at the make up of the Pistons squad. (Trade Grade: B+)
Pistons: The Pistons made multiple trades trying to improve their team to make playoff push, as it stands they are still out of the playoff picture. The team just can't complete with the dominant Eastern Conference teams. Giving up a lot of future for an average player may not work out for them. (Trade Grade: C)
Trade #6
To Lakers:
Jusuf Nurkic
Mark Price
To Jazz:
Hot Rod Williams
Keith Smith
2002 Lakers 1st
2003 Lakers 1st
$950
Lakers: Great additions for an under performing team, Nurkic is a top league C who will continue to improve and Price provides a little extra scoring and defense off the bench. The package they gave up included a promising Hot Rod Williams who is very solid in his own right, but doesn't hold the potential ceiling Nurkic has. The two firsts given up will actually likely be decent mid round 1sts but not projected to be lottery. (Trade Grade: A-)
Jazz: Decent return, I think this trade really depends on how well Nurkic develops. If he has a good TC next season, he will be an all league player. I don't see that type of potential for Hot Rod but thats why the additional cash and 1sts were thrown in. I think Hot Rod is a little underrated in by many in this league. When some initially did not like this trade, I thought it was fair and good for both teams. (Trade Grade: B+)
Trade #7
To Raptors:
JR Smith
$175
To Clippers:
2002 Raptors 1st
2003 Raptors 1st
Dave Feitl
Clippers: Rebuilding team, looking to move on from a player who could help them potentially win. Clippers were looking to lose and lose big, even if that meant giving up a player that is 19, with excellent scoring capabilities very high potential. With the Raptors early season struggles, these 1sts will likely be in the 20+ range which is valuable for D-League players. (Trade Grade: B)
Raptors: Exactly what the Raptors were looking for all season, a SF. Defense was a concern with JR, but after camps he has demonstrated his defense is acceptable but still below league average. With high potential and B B+ scoring at age 19, expect JR to be a scoring threat for the Raptors for many years. At the time of the trade, the Raptors were multiple stops out of a playoff spot. They are now competing for the fourth place position (three games back). (Trade Grade: A-)
Thoughts? Which trades did I miss?
3rd League Article this season.
Trade #1:
To Pacers:
Damon Hancock
2004 Kings 1st
$1000
To Kings:
Kevin Murphy
Kings: Kings stocking up for a playoff run with some additional scoring and turnovers off the bench. A lot of mixed review on Muprhy around the league but can't deny his scoring ability and decent defense. Solid pick up for the Kings. (Trade Grade: B+)
Pacers: Pacer finishing up their team blow up by dealing the last remaining core piece in Murphy despite being in a top spot in the East. Good package in the return including a 1st in 2004 and $1000 cash. This is a good package for Murphy. Good work from the Pacers to find the right trade partner to get the most out of Murphy. The 1st will likely be a late first as the Kings are expected to be a high rated West team for years to come with the majority of their core players signed through 2004. (Trade Grade: B)
Trade #2:
To Celtics:
Chris Wilcox
To Kings:
Royal Ivey
2004 Celtics 1st
$300
Celtics: Win now move for a Celtics team that was desperate for a second big to play along side Embiid. But I don't think it is enough to help them compete in the East. Wilcox was having a solid rookie year, producing immediately out of the draft. The question will be how he develops, with lower potential he may not develop much more than a decent bench big. Giving up a 1st for Wilcox is fair, but the Celtics only have Embiid locked up beyond 2003 so the 1st in 2004 may hold high value if they can't maintain a playoff caliber team. Time will tell. (Trade Grade: C+)
Kings: A little big of a surprise to see Wilcox moved, as he was playing heavy minutes off the bench for the Kings helping them sit a top the Pacific division. Looking at their roster, the back up C/PF position is likely their weakest position now. This trade in no way makes them better now, but I'm assuming that 1st rounder was just to tempting to pass up. We will have to see if Pavel Podkolzin and Joel Przybilla will be enough come playoff time. (Trade Grade: C)
I honestly don't like this trade for either team considering the positions they are in. But time will tell whether the Kings got a steal with that 2004 1st.
Trade #3:
To Spurs:
Jeff Taylor
Bernard James
Dwayne Washington
To Pacers:
Noah Vonleh
2004 Spurs 1st
Spurs: No doubt a win now move. Giving up a potential defensive all team big like Vonleh is tough, but not when you receive three starting caliber players in return. Jeff Taylor is an incredible inside threat with stellar defense who in my opinion deserves a return similar to what the Pacers got in this trade alone. But on top of Taylor, the Pacers got Bernard James (all around good C) and Washington (good pass first, defensive PG). (Trade Grade: A)
Pacers: Not a big fan of this trade, feel they could have got more packaging these players individually. But the Pacers made it known they were rebuilding and wanted these players moved. As much as I don't like it, I do like Vonleh, just not as much as I think the Pacers value him. The 1st likely wont amount to much but you never know, the Spurs may decide to blow things up. (Trade Grade: C-)
Trade #4:
To Rockets:
Jamal Crawford
To 76ers:
2003 Rockets 1st
2003 Kings 1st
$350
To Kings:
$600
Rockets: Desperate for some back court scoring, Crawford fits the bill. Giving up $950 cash and a 2003 1st is steep but worth it in my eyes to attain a player capable of 20ppg. Houston is in the bottom of the league in scoring and this trade instantly helps address that. Crawford will continue to grow over the years and I expect he will be #1 option material. (Trade Grade: B+)
76ers: Rebuilding team, looking to deal all assets for 1sts and cash. Can't argue with the return here, although neither 1st project to be a top 10 pick, for a team in the 76ers tanking position, 1sts never hurt. Although, I think they drastically overpaid for the inclusion of the 2003 Kings 1st. (Trade Grade: B-)
Kings: Somehow the Kings sneak into this deal... and manage to get $600 for a projected late 1st round pick in 2003. (Trade Grade: A+)
Trade #5:
To Pistons:
2004 Pistons 1st
$250
To 76ers:
Andrew Nicholson
76ers: Good net return for a decent big man that had no future in Phili. This first could be a lottery pick looking at the make up of the Pistons squad. (Trade Grade: B+)
Pistons: The Pistons made multiple trades trying to improve their team to make playoff push, as it stands they are still out of the playoff picture. The team just can't complete with the dominant Eastern Conference teams. Giving up a lot of future for an average player may not work out for them. (Trade Grade: C)
Trade #6
To Lakers:
Jusuf Nurkic
Mark Price
To Jazz:
Hot Rod Williams
Keith Smith
2002 Lakers 1st
2003 Lakers 1st
$950
Lakers: Great additions for an under performing team, Nurkic is a top league C who will continue to improve and Price provides a little extra scoring and defense off the bench. The package they gave up included a promising Hot Rod Williams who is very solid in his own right, but doesn't hold the potential ceiling Nurkic has. The two firsts given up will actually likely be decent mid round 1sts but not projected to be lottery. (Trade Grade: A-)
Jazz: Decent return, I think this trade really depends on how well Nurkic develops. If he has a good TC next season, he will be an all league player. I don't see that type of potential for Hot Rod but thats why the additional cash and 1sts were thrown in. I think Hot Rod is a little underrated in by many in this league. When some initially did not like this trade, I thought it was fair and good for both teams. (Trade Grade: B+)
Trade #7
To Raptors:
JR Smith
$175
To Clippers:
2002 Raptors 1st
2003 Raptors 1st
Dave Feitl
Clippers: Rebuilding team, looking to move on from a player who could help them potentially win. Clippers were looking to lose and lose big, even if that meant giving up a player that is 19, with excellent scoring capabilities very high potential. With the Raptors early season struggles, these 1sts will likely be in the 20+ range which is valuable for D-League players. (Trade Grade: B)
Raptors: Exactly what the Raptors were looking for all season, a SF. Defense was a concern with JR, but after camps he has demonstrated his defense is acceptable but still below league average. With high potential and B B+ scoring at age 19, expect JR to be a scoring threat for the Raptors for many years. At the time of the trade, the Raptors were multiple stops out of a playoff spot. They are now competing for the fourth place position (three games back). (Trade Grade: A-)
