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Post by legend on Jun 12, 2009 16:46:40 GMT -6
Magic Send: Stephon Meyer Sedale Threatt Dave Popson
Blazers Send: Bill Walton
etown wanted an explanation from the Blazers GM, which is fair enough, so I'll post for discussion.
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Post by porgm on Jun 12, 2009 17:13:15 GMT -6
I felt as though i was trading an older player who could retire at anytime for 3 guys who are in their early and mid 20s who maybe able to contribute
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Post by jlafavor on Jun 12, 2009 17:31:03 GMT -6
i maybe would have tried to get more for walton, but he isnt exactly tearing it up, 14/10 with 4 topg isnt all that good. popson and threatt are terrible, but meyer has some value.
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Post by etownconcretebys on Jun 12, 2009 17:32:15 GMT -6
The guy is obviously new to this game and its a bad move so i protested. he should be briefed on a few things and given another shot at dealing his best player.
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Post by jlafavor on Jun 12, 2009 17:35:47 GMT -6
Walton isnt his best player, hinson is. and he is new and could have probably gotten a better deal. im just saying its not that terrible of a deal in theory and i see where porgm is coming from.
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josh
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Post by josh on Jun 12, 2009 18:06:36 GMT -6
Fwiw, I also protested...
There are a LOT of players that have slow starts to the season, and there are players that start out on fire and then really cool off...Walton will pick it up and be a really solid contributor this season, especially on defense and on the boards...Justifying this b/c of Walton's slow start makes no sense.
He's getting ripped for three guys that aren't good, if there was a pick, or a lot of cash or something AND these guys, then it's not so bad, but gimme a break, this deal is awful.
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Post by legend on Jun 12, 2009 18:21:33 GMT -6
Well the thing I would say is Walton is 36 chances are he will have a subpar season. Solid but it's doubtful he will be steller. I also believe he will drop in the next TC or retire.
I totally respect josh though so if it gets 3 protests and goes to council then I will only defend my side of the trade and let the council decide. At this point it would destroy my team/plans to lose Walton since I moved on another trade before this began to be protested but so be it.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Jun 13, 2009 10:37:10 GMT -6
The guy is obviously new to this game and its a bad move so i protested. he should be briefed on a few things and given another shot at dealing his best player. Etown youre a piece of shit in it's truest form. You make a whole speech on how he's new. Then you offer him a bunch of trash for Roy Hinson lol.
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Post by legend on Jun 13, 2009 10:56:06 GMT -6
The guy is obviously new to this game and its a bad move so i protested. he should be briefed on a few things and given another shot at dealing his best player. Etown youre a piece of shit in it's truest form. You make a whole speech on how he's new. Then you offer him a bunch of trash for Roy Hinson lol. LOL
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Post by donrnets on Jun 13, 2009 11:27:00 GMT -6
Fwiw, I also protested... There are a LOT of players that have slow starts to the season, and there are players that start out on fire and then really cool off...Walton will pick it up and be a really solid contributor this season, especially on defense and on the boards...Justifying this b/c of Walton's slow start makes no sense. He's getting ripped for three guys that aren't good, if there was a pick, or a lot of cash or something AND these guys, then it's not so bad, but gimme a break, this deal is awful. Walton's shooting percentage is off from last season . . .but his scoring is pretty similar and that's in the face of decline of his inside rating from a B to a B-. . . .with his age and rating declines (dropped in handling as well) . . .what you see could be what you get pretty much. The tricky thing is evaluating older players with more than a year on their contract. . .from a trade point of view. Meyer would be a backup on some teams. . However, I'm inclined to see him as a starter over Pierce on the Blazers. . . they are pretty thin in the guard ranks. With an F for potential you have to feel that Walton's path is down. . .we just don't know how fast or how soon. He's not a bargain at 6.1M and 6.7 thiss year and next. . . but it's not a bad price either. . . (maybe next year he'd be more of a drag).
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Post by mavsgeniousgm on Jun 13, 2009 11:28:54 GMT -6
LOL Silly Etown, Im not going to protest a trade that involves a 36 yr old guy who's fixing to retire, let the trade go thru for god sakes!
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Post by etownconcretebys on Jun 13, 2009 12:11:27 GMT -6
The guy is obviously new to this game and its a bad move so i protested. he should be briefed on a few things and given another shot at dealing his best player. Etown youre a piece of shit in it's truest form. You make a whole speech on how he's new. Then you offer him a bunch of trash for Roy Hinson lol. I offered 2 guys that would start on his team and a 1st round pick. it was atleast respectable. this deal is garbage... you wouldnt know a good trade if it sat on your face anyway. hopefully you arent the one advising this guy on how to trade... show him how to look up league history to see thatyou are the worst gm in the historyof the league to this point.
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Post by aceman034 on Jun 13, 2009 12:24:32 GMT -6
ETown....how do you know they'd start on his team?? When I offered you players that would definitely start on your team, your response was something to the effect of "Now you're telling me how to run my team? what the fuck do you know??"..............and that was simply after saying that I had an upgrade at C or something for you........so, please realize, your opinion means nothing in these necks of the woods, and keep your whining and crying to yourself...
As for the trade - could have he gotten more for Walton? probably.....but it's lame that some people protest because THEY would have given more for Walton, and they wanted him, perhaps they should have made an offer on him before he got dealt. You know who you are.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Jun 13, 2009 12:34:55 GMT -6
Etown youre a piece of shit in it's truest form. You make a whole speech on how he's new. Then you offer him a bunch of trash for Roy Hinson lol. I offered 2 guys that would start on his team and a 1st round pick. it was atleast respectable. this deal is garbage... you wouldnt know a good trade if it sat on your face anyway. hopefully you arent the one advising this guy on how to trade... show him how to look up league history to see thatyou are the worst gm in the historyof the league to this point. You offered an overpaid loser in Turpin, and another scrub in Conner. Saying that they could start on his team isn't saying much, so try telling the whole story. To go from this... Its a lose lose trade for a new gm and he shouldnt get his best player taken from him in this manner. To thinking "His best player should be taken away in this manner...but by me" shows what a shady bitch you really are. Btw nice job at trying to switch the subject, a true pussy move by the leagues number 1 twat.
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Post by etownconcretebys on Jun 13, 2009 12:37:22 GMT -6
ETown....how do you know they'd start on his team?? When I offered you players that would definitely start on your team, your response was something to the effect of "Now you're telling me how to run my team? what the fuck do you know??"..............and that was simply after saying that I had an upgrade at C or something for you........so, please realize, your opinion means nothing in these necks of the woods, and keep your whining and crying to yourself... As for the trade - could have he gotten more for Walton? probably.....but it's lame that some people protest because THEY would have given more for Walton, and they wanted him, perhaps they should have made an offer on him before he got dealt. You know who you are. i like how you paint yourself into such a nice picture. "i simply said i had an upgrade for you".. lol "simply said"... haha. yeah likeyou are all about just hooking me up with an upgrade and i bit the hand that feeds. youre a fucking character. Your "upgrade" was me sending you charles barkley so fuck off with your attempted slander. As for the trade - could have he gotten more for Walton? probably..... ...exactly.
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Post by aceman034 on Jun 13, 2009 12:40:11 GMT -6
no no no....I am talking about a while back Etown ya idiot....when I was telling you that William Bedford would have been an upgrade over Liam Griffey.....two seasons later...go look at them ya fuckin nutsack......you're a complete idiot.
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Post by etownconcretebys on Jun 13, 2009 12:41:56 GMT -6
Heat trade (PF) Cadillac Anderson (SF) Derrick McKey Wolves 1990 1st Kings 1990 1st
Spurs trade (C) David Robinson (SF) Keith Lee $280 Cash
how shady was this trade? and how shady is the one we are actually discussing in this thread? my offer wasnt good but i still offered a pick. who are we talking about anyway? roy hinson??? why should i have to come up with legit offers when everyone else is on the take. yeah i protested this deal and if mine was posted u could have protested that. i'll tell you this, i wouldnt have BITCHED like FEMALE post after post about how you guys protest everything. "and you know who you are." get the fuck outo f here...
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Post by legend on Jun 13, 2009 12:42:09 GMT -6
Turpin!! LOL!!!!
Talk about trash!
Also etown, why not trade Barkley? You've never done anything with him and it's a tragedy that in our league Jordan will never had a championship because you are such a terrible GM.
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Post by legend on Jun 13, 2009 12:43:24 GMT -6
Heat trade (PF) Cadillac Anderson (SF) Derrick McKey Wolves 1990 1st Kings 1990 1st Spurs trade (C) David Robinson (SF) Keith Lee $280 Cash how shady was this trade? and how shady is the one we are actually discussing in this thread? my offer wasnt good but i still offered a pick. who are we talking about anyway? roy hinson??? why should i have to come up with legit offers when everyone else is on the take. yeah i protested this deal and if mine was posted u could have protested that. i'll tell you this, i wouldnt have BITCHED like FEMALE post after post about how you guys protest everything. "and you know who you are." get the fuck outo f here... You bitch in every thread you post in. LOL. You are the bitch boy of the ITP. I just wish we could get rid of you.
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Post by Keyser Soze on Jun 13, 2009 12:45:45 GMT -6
why should i have to come up with legit offers That comment earns you the right to shut the fuck up for the next 24 hours.
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