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Post by yourkers15 on Aug 15, 2016 14:33:38 GMT -6
Knicks Acquire- PF Karl Malone
Warriors Acquire- SG Kendall Gill PG Daneil Gibson PG Patrick Mills PF Ken Johnson (signed in FA) 1995 Knicks First Round Pick
This can't be serious. The warriors are pretty much giving away Malone. Not getting anything significant back for a big time PF.
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Post by bluechips23 on Aug 15, 2016 14:45:39 GMT -6
But they get a very valuable pick!
Unless this was a desperate salary dump, which it doesn't appear to be, this is just another heist.. Trading your best player, when you want to contend, for a rental-backup rookie-#20+ pick, is absurd. That's all I'm going to say about this..
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Post by hunt54 on Aug 15, 2016 16:13:44 GMT -6
I offered better in the offseason but im not gonna complain i like my team how it is. Don't see how it benefits the warriors as the knicks pick will not be worth anything and fda just buys picks in the 10-20 range for cash and tries to take an outside player so him losing his pick doesnt hurt him in any way
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 16:59:09 GMT -6
I wanted to move Malone. He was on the block last season and nobody even sent an offer. Thing is I did not have enough playing time for Cooper, Vincent and Negrete. Now I do and Gill is older yes but fills a need at SG. My starting five is still good with Biedrins,Cooper.Vincent,Gill and Ford. Gibson may be a good pg I just need to camp him a couple times. So I dont agree with this trade as being bad for me.
The move I made this season was moving JRich and look what that has done for me?. A 7-12 start with poor sg play. You may not like the trade but I do think I will once again make the playoffs.
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Post by mpatt75 on Aug 15, 2016 19:29:45 GMT -6
I wanted to move Malone. He was on the block last season and nobody even sent an offer. Thing is I did not have enough playing time for Cooper, Vincent and Negrete. Now I do and Gill is older yes but fills a need at SG. My starting five is still good with Biedrins,Cooper.Vincent,Gill and Ford. Gibson may be a good pg I just need to camp him a couple times. So I dont agree with this trade as being bad for me. The move I made this season was moving JRich and look what that has done for me?. A 7-12 start with poor sg play. You may not like the trade but I do think I will once again make the playoffs. Did you make offers to teams with Malone in them?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 20:49:40 GMT -6
Yes also had a trade block for Malone too.
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Post by mpatt75 on Aug 16, 2016 6:32:50 GMT -6
Yes also had a trade block for Malone too. I'm good with that. The rest are just sore sports haha
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Post by bucksetball00 on Aug 16, 2016 11:42:00 GMT -6
I dont think its terrible. Gill isnt a bad player. People need to offer if they dont like these trades. Malone was on the block last year like he stated
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Post by bluechips23 on Aug 16, 2016 12:07:17 GMT -6
I dont think its terrible. Gill isnt a bad player. People need to offer if they dont like these trades. Malone was on the block last year like he stated Having him in the trade block means nothing. This about this trade, and blocking players have become a futile effort anyway. Warriors gave up the best player and got worse while making their potential playoff opponent better, while also not getting any significant asset for the future. The pick is useless, no cash was involved, and the rookie involved will be a perennial backup. Warriors won no part of this trade other than removing Malone's salary in the future, and ruined any chance to advance far in the playoffs. No one is protesting this trade. But to think this helps the warriors chances at a title in anyway is delusional at best. This is the trade discussion thread allowing people to express their analysis of trade, so just saying we are sore losers is just a stupid comment. And sure more people could've offered for Malone (I didn't even want him for my young team) but that is neither here nor there, because it doesn't change the facts about this trade and its benefit to the teams involved.
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Post by bucksetball00 on Aug 16, 2016 13:30:51 GMT -6
I dont think its terrible. Gill isnt a bad player. People need to offer if they dont like these trades. Malone was on the block last year like he stated Having him in the trade block means nothing. This about this trade, and blocking players have become a futile effort anyway. Warriors gave up the best player and got worse while making their potential playoff opponent better, while also not getting any significant asset for the future. The pick is useless, no cash was involved, and the rookie involved will be a perennial backup. Warriors won no part of this trade other than removing Malone's salary in the future, and ruined any chance to advance far in the playoffs. No one is protesting this trade. But to think this helps the warriors chances at a title in anyway is delusional at best. This is the trade discussion thread allowing people to express their analysis of trade, so just saying we are sore losers is just a stupid comment. And sure more people could've offered for Malone (I didn't even want him for my young team) but that is neither here nor there, because it doesn't change the facts about this trade and its benefit to the teams involved. If he wanted to trade Malone and this is the best offer he gets than so be it. Everyone had a chance to get him. The Warriors are 9-12 so gaining cap, a rookie, and a "useless pick". Is better than treading water for 3 years with Malone.
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Post by don1955 on Aug 18, 2016 16:16:35 GMT -6
what i like about fda, is that he will use malone this year to maybe win a ship, an then next year trade him for waaaaaaaay more than this to some gm who will think malone is the answer, ha
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Post by Keyser Soze on Aug 18, 2016 22:28:02 GMT -6
what i like about fda, is that he will use malone this year to maybe win a ship, an then next year trade him for waaaaaaaay more than this to some gm who will think malone is the answer, ha Hope you're right
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Post by Keyser Soze on Aug 21, 2016 1:48:06 GMT -6
But they get a very valuable pick! Unless this was a desperate salary dump, which it doesn't appear to be, this is just another heist.. Trading your best player, when you want to contend, for a rental-backup rookie-#20+ pick, is absurd. That's all I'm going to say about this.. Bargnani and Schayes for Malone?
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Post by lutonlol on Aug 23, 2016 6:02:51 GMT -6
Just a quick thought
Malone is only worth what the GM could get for him. If he wants to move him off his roster and takes the best price he is offered then the deal is fair.
All this "he got the worst of the deal" or "the pick is worthless" stuff is TOTALLY irrelevant.
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Post by yourkers15 on Aug 24, 2016 0:43:37 GMT -6
Just a quick thought Malone is only worth what the GM could get for him. If he wants to move him off his roster and takes the best price he is offered then the deal is fair. All this "he got the worst of the deal" or "the pick is worthless" stuff is TOTALLY irrelevant. That's why there is good gms n bad ones.
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Post by lutonlol on Aug 24, 2016 4:18:04 GMT -6
]That's why there is good gms n bad ones. No there are just GM's - good or bad are irrelevant - they run their teams as they see fit It's why committee is there to protect rookies but other than that we usually let GM's get on with it and make their own choices. As long as there is no collusion or cheating let guys get on with it
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Post by yourkers15 on Aug 24, 2016 6:12:53 GMT -6
]That's why there is good gms n bad ones. No there are just GM's - good or bad are irrelevant - they run their teams as they see fit It's why committee is there to protect rookies but other than that we usually let GM's get on with it and make their own choices. As long as there is no collusion or cheating let guys get on with it N based on what u said is why I have lost interest in this league. I know its for fun but I also do it to be competitive. N what u said is who gives a fuck what happens if they been here for a minute. N if that's the case lets just gives guys like FDA the title ever year. This is why I am done trying.
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Post by lutonlol on Aug 24, 2016 10:21:54 GMT -6
Why should guys like FDA get the title every year - because they are more active and trade harder?
As I see it that's all they do any different from anyone else. They constantly look out for extra edges and manage to find an offer that works for the GM's they trade with. It's that simple, nothing sinister or underhand about it. They just work harder at it.
There are a number of GM's in this league that work to extract every bit of value out of a deal and every GM is entitled to say no thanks. But if that is the best offer they feel they are going to get, and they are determined to get rid of a player, then that's not their fault. They were just the guy smart enough to offer just enough to get the deal done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 11:13:50 GMT -6
Why is it that we are still fucking talking about this trade? The trade worked well for me. 7-2 in the second half is a team playing well.
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Post by mpatt75 on Aug 24, 2016 12:33:23 GMT -6
Why is it that we are still fucking talking about this trade? The trade worked well for me. 7-2 in the second half is a team playing well. Why? Because certain GMs sound like they are not happy with the league, or something along those lines.
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