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Post by jlafavor on Mar 5, 2015 11:05:49 GMT -6
I will say this I think you should not be able to go over the hard cap period. Because it allows people to keep stacked teams without ever having to worry because you can go over and get under later. When you have superstars you know you will get value for them and keep retooling a team with out any worries. I understand that you can't control what happens in free agency sometimes but you can control signings and trades. Just my thought. Also something I think should be discussed. But I am sure most people would be against it. what if we just had a smaller fine for inadvertently going over the hard cap via trade rather than revoking trades (usually a sim or two down the road) since the game doesnt have notifications for it it is easy to miss and has happened a few times over the years. it isn't fair to allow it sometimes but not others. this way we can still have our "semi hard cap" set up but still have a small penalty for breaking it, with harsher penalties if it isn't fixed.
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Post by yourkers15 on Mar 5, 2015 13:17:10 GMT -6
With our trade it was difficult to realize that John would go over because the signing of a few people to make trades work plus how much cap he takes on with the 115%. Outside that it is not hard to see if you are going to go over the hardcap.
But the biggest thing is the signing of players and going over. Why should any team have the ability to go over the hardcap and keep a player? Now there is a period where you can make a trade before signing people. Now if you don't before that period you should not be allowed to sign that player.
Same thing with free agency. Yes you can go over. But say you are to go over I think you should have to relinquish a player(s) that you signed to get under the hardcap.
Because when it comes done to it a top team would take the fine of a low pick going to the back of the draft and missing a player for set amount of sims as they know they will still make the playoffs. I really just rather see it be more difficult to keep players and have to be more creative to avoid it happening.
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Post by huxley on Mar 5, 2015 13:52:00 GMT -6
Man some people would be the most happiest if there's no trades at all. They would try to impose everything that would put the shittiest gm's on equal field with top one. Lower the hard cap, no trades with newbies, no trades for picks with a team that won less then 30 games last season, no trades if you god forbid get a player on rookie contract in return, no trades if it god forbids puts you over the hard cap for one fucking sim...i mean no trades at all.
Jesus...
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Post by sidtiancam on Mar 5, 2015 17:43:51 GMT -6
Here's the thing I was trying to explain in my earlier post. If this three team trade was considered "one" trade, then John took back well more than 115% of the salary he gave up. If it's considered as one trade, that is the reason that there is an issue with it, not that he went over the hard cap.
Now, for those thinking that it's two separate trades posted together.....The 115% rule would be ok, because in each transaction he took back more salary, but it was within the 115% threshold...the problem when you look at them separately is that he went over the hard cap with the first trade, and should not have been able to make the second trade because of that.
I'm not trying to start anything, but I'm trying to understand what is allowable and what is not.
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Post by jlafavor on Mar 5, 2015 18:14:21 GMT -6
Here's the thing I was trying to explain in my earlier post. If this three team trade was considered "one" trade, then John took back well more than 115% of the salary he gave up. If it's considered as one trade, that is the reason that there is an issue with it, not that he went over the hard cap. Now, for those thinking that it's two separate trades posted together.....The 115% rule would be ok, because in each transaction he took back more salary, but it was within the 115% threshold...the problem when you look at them separately is that he went over the hard cap with the first trade, and should not have been able to make the second trade because of that. I'm not trying to start anything, but I'm trying to understand what is allowable and what is not. it was two separate trades posted together. really what happened was john and i tried to make a trade around barnes for kelley, he posted it but it didnt match and he didnt have enough salary to make it work. the raptors saw the trade posted (and i assume had tried to get barnes from john) and made me an offer for barnes. Since i couldnt get the deal worked with john i figured out a way to get everyone what the wanted in this three team deal that was really just two separate deals that i planned out. of course not taking hard cap figures (besides mine) into consideration. as a side note, FBB doesn't allow three team trades so if you ever want to do one you have to separate them into individual 2 team trades.
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Post by John1974 on Mar 5, 2015 20:41:44 GMT -6
Yes it was 2 trades only way it will work in game.
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Post by Daboy on Mar 5, 2015 20:47:20 GMT -6
i want this trade reversed right now!
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Post by Keyser Soze on Mar 6, 2015 7:54:15 GMT -6
Lol
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