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Post by AuldDawg on Dec 5, 2014 15:14:55 GMT -6
He can't afford to keep Divac's bloated contract so it's not going to happen.
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Post by AuldDawg on Dec 5, 2014 15:24:10 GMT -6
Definitely overpaid, but he's 22 and has the 2nd best potential in the league's valuable players, better than Olajuwon, Barkley, Stockton, Hill or Kidd. I bet $1000 that he's worth his salary in five years. If he were a SF or a PF I would absolutely not have traded him. Btw I also had a Divac/Westbrook offer on the table and was not really interested, even if I needed a big man... How are you possibly going to quantify that bet? That would be a pretty simple analysis IMO. Easiest would be $/PER comparison with other players at whatever position he's playing in 5 years. (Hi dwightcoward!) |
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Post by huxley on Dec 5, 2014 15:28:11 GMT -6
Hux why don't u stop saying how good divac can b and do it yourself. I want you to use the cash on camping him instead of using it to trade because you know he is overpaid. Show us otherwise. Because i knew i couldn't afford him, that's why. I knew cause of the stupid hard cap i need to let him go, otherwise i would have already sent him to 6 camps already and made him an all star. I mean the guy way basically a 15/10 player playing alongside Moses, as a non option and with no camps at all. |
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Post by yourkers15 on Dec 5, 2014 15:31:00 GMT -6
Now hux over the hard cap makes sense he would pay Moore cuz he doesn't believe Bowie is a good enough backup. N hux if u need ill take Anderson off your hands.
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Post by don1955 on Dec 5, 2014 15:39:55 GMT -6
i just want to write an article about trades 5 years later...
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Post by yourkers15 on Dec 5, 2014 15:58:41 GMT -6
Don that sounds like a great idea. Think me and you should look into the 1st year trades and see how they turned out.
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Post by AuldDawg on Dec 5, 2014 15:59:44 GMT -6
Hux why don't u stop saying how good divac can b and do it yourself. I want you to use the cash on camping him instead of using it to trade because you know he is overpaid. Show us otherwise. Because i knew i couldn't afford him, that's why. I knew cause of the stupid hard cap i need to let him go, otherwise i would have already sent him to 6 camps already and made him an all star. I mean the guy way basically a 15/10 player playing alongside Moses, as a non option and with no camps at all. "the stupid hard cap"? lmao You mean the same hard cap that all of the other GM's have to deal with? Camp Divac and he's an asset to be traded. Let him drift and be subject to the vagaries of TC and...well, you'll find yourself in the position you're in now. |
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Post by I <3 John on Dec 5, 2014 16:55:34 GMT -6
its like don1955 and i are the only ones who think Westbrook isnt that good, and definitely isnt worth that contract. i know that i would NEVER want Westbrook with that contract on my team. especially as my starting point guard |
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Post by aceman034 on Dec 5, 2014 17:59:25 GMT -6
its like don1955 and i are the only ones who think Westbrook isnt that good, and definitely isnt worth that contract. i know that i would NEVER want Westbrook with that contract on my team. especially as my starting point guard And we all know Don is old and senile, not sure what that says about you Dave!  |
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Post by ClauseIsAWarrior on Dec 5, 2014 20:59:40 GMT -6
I dont want Westbrick either... Eh, I suppose he would be decent next to EJ but Westphal is better.
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Post by greeme on Dec 6, 2014 14:58:18 GMT -6
For those of you that don't look at numbers, Westbrook (remember he's only 22), has the 47th highest total of skill points in the entire league. Walton? 115th, with 19 potential. #46? If I'm the Grizzlies, I make that trade every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Is Westbrook overpaid at the moment? Of course. Will he be in 5 years? Not likely with the proper Camping and decent TC's. greeme, if you're taking on all comers, I'll take that bet. (Assuming that aceman camps him each season otherwise all bets are off.) I have no control over camps Whatever he gets he gets 24 ppg, less than 2.8 topg, 58% true shooting percentage That is the bet if you agree post |
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Post by yourkers15 on Dec 6, 2014 17:48:03 GMT -6
i would not go with TOs for the bet to me it should be assist/to ratio. I would go with a 3/1 ratio. To me that is the definitions of a good PG. Thats also assuming ace is going to play him at the point. I think everything else is pretty on par for the bet.
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Post by AuldDawg on Dec 6, 2014 17:54:29 GMT -6
For those of you that don't look at numbers, Westbrook (remember he's only 22), has the 47th highest total of skill points in the entire league. Walton? 115th, with 19 potential. #46? If I'm the Grizzlies, I make that trade every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Is Westbrook overpaid at the moment? Of course. Will he be in 5 years? Not likely with the proper Camping and decent TC's. greeme, if you're taking on all comers, I'll take that bet. (Assuming that aceman camps him each season otherwise all bets are off.) I have no control over camps Whatever he gets he gets 24 ppg, less than 2.8 topg, 58% true shooting percentage That is the bet if you agree post If he plays him at SG and lower the scoring to 21 PPG then I'll agree. |
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Post by greeme on Dec 6, 2014 18:24:05 GMT -6
I have no control over camps Whatever he gets he gets 24 ppg, less than 2.8 topg, 58% true shooting percentage That is the bet if you agree post If he plays him at SG and lower the scoring to 21 PPG then I'll agree. Lol at 2 guard 2.8 would be horrible And i have no control over where he plays him or even if he still has him then If he plays most of the year at pg what i wrote before If he plays most of the year at sg 21 ppg 2.2 topg |
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Post by don1955 on Dec 6, 2014 18:37:49 GMT -6
oh heck just trade him to hux, he always has pg's with high to's, so he will fit right in...
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Post by AuldDawg on Dec 7, 2014 4:43:21 GMT -6
If he plays him at SG and lower the scoring to 21 PPG then I'll agree. Lol at 2 guard 2.8 would be horrible And i have no control over where he plays him or even if he still has him then If he plays most of the year at pg what i wrote before If he plays most of the year at sg 21 ppg 2.2 topg Actually, the more unrealistic number is the 58% True Shooting Percentage. Since you brought it up, I decided to look into it and calculate his current TSP which is 50.7% for last season. Which made me more curious how that compared to the top PG's in the league. So I calculated it for the 3 guys on the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd All-League teams. Nate Archibald - 54.6% Phil Chenier - 55.8% Gus Williams - 52.5% Which in turn made me even more curious so I ran some others: Eddie Jones - 46.4% KAJ - 55.8% Bobby Jones - 53.4% Larry Kenon - 55.9% And finally, Glen Rice, who is making the same salary as Westbrook: 45.0% at 17.0 PPG with an ATO of 1.76 (and yes, I realise that he doesn't play the point but since they make the same money, I thought it would be good to take a look and compare.) So I guess what I'm saying is that I'll pass on that bet after all. lol I'd still rather have Westbrook than Walton though.  |
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Post by greeme on Dec 7, 2014 6:43:48 GMT -6
Lol at 2 guard 2.8 would be horrible And i have no control over where he plays him or even if he still has him then If he plays most of the year at pg what i wrote before If he plays most of the year at sg 21 ppg 2.2 topg Actually, the more unrealistic number is the 58% True Shooting Percentage. Since you brought it up, I decided to look into it and calculate his current TSP which is 50.7% for last season. Which made me more curious how that compared to the top PG's in the league. So I calculated it for the 3 guys on the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd All-League teams. Nate Archibald - 54.6% Phil Chenier - 55.8% Gus Williams - 52.5% Which in turn made me even more curious so I ran some others: Eddie Jones - 46.4% KAJ - 55.8% Bobby Jones - 53.4% Larry Kenon - 55.9% And finally, Glen Rice, who is making the same salary as Westbrook: 45.0% at 17.0 PPG with an ATO of 1.76 (and yes, I realise that he doesn't play the point but since they make the same money, I thought it would be good to take a look and compare.) So I guess what I'm saying is that I'll pass on that bet after all. lol I'd still rather have Westbrook than Walton though. i didn't check all of them but rice is 57% |
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Post by greeme on Dec 7, 2014 6:51:09 GMT -6
the other guys don't shoot threes which is why their %s are lower
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Post by AuldDawg on Dec 7, 2014 7:06:22 GMT -6
Hmmmm...I'll have to double check my formula.
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Post by greeme on Dec 7, 2014 7:13:44 GMT -6
Hmmmm...I'll have to double check my formula. yup |
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